Last of the All Gun Cruisers

Otter · Jan 8, 2014

Not strictly WWII, but I did not know where to post this. I knew about the Sverdlov class but not of the fate of this one:
http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/06/shipwreck-of-murmansk-nort-coast-of.html

Treetopflyer · Jan 9, 2014

She is truly a sad sight.

Stearmen · Jan 9, 2014

USS Salem

Not quite the last! The USS Salem CA-139 still exists. http://www.uss-salem.org/

Horace Debussy Jones · Jan 9, 2014

Is that a periscope I see on the left in the 4th pic?

Otter · Jan 9, 2014

These cruisers were a big worry to NATO, they went to some extraordinary lengths to gather intel on them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lionel_Crabb

Smithy · Jan 9, 2014

Otter said:
Not strictly WWII, but I did not know where to post this. I knew about the Sverdlov class but not of the fate of this one:
http://www.artificialowl.net/2008/06/shipwreck-of-murmansk-nort-coast-of.html

Thanks for posting that - fascinating link.

There are a ton of military wrecks off the coast of Norway. When I was living there I had to go to a conference in Narvik and saw the Georg Thiele, a German destroyer which after being extensively damaged by British destroyers in 1940 ran herself aground. The bow of the ship still sticks out above the water. Quite a sight.

Dragon Soldier · Jan 9, 2014

Think they ended up in a role similar (scale allowing) to the Iowas in the USN.
Would have made a reassuring support platform for Naval Spetsnaz Ivan Ivanovich while storming up the beach.

Edit:- And come to think of it, probably would have been quite nasty if firing the other way. Which could well have been why the RN disposed of the former USS Phoenix back in '82.

Atticus Finch · Jan 9, 2014

Horace Debussy Jones said:
Is that a periscope I see on the left in the 4th pic?

A wave is breaking there, so it appears to be a rock or a shoal. The periscope looking object is probably a marker for that obstruction.

AF

Otter · Jan 9, 2014

Atticus Finch said:
A wave is breaking there, so it appears to be a rock or a shoal. The periscope looking object is probably a marker for that obstruction.

AF

Come on Atticus, look at how far out of the water that cruiser is, any sub would be aground with the sail well above water. Isolated danger mark aka a perch would be my best guess.
And any submariner would get his head in his hands for having his scope scope so far out the oggin.

Fibber Mcgee · Jan 10, 2014

I like it there , at least you can see it. It serves them right for trying to scrap another piece of history.

Atticus Finch · Jan 10, 2014

Otter said:
Come on Atticus, look at how far out of the water that cruiser is, any sub would be aground with the sail well above water. Isolated danger mark aka a perch would be my best guess.
And any submariner would get his head in his hands for having his scope scope so far out the oggin.

Easy there, Otter. I think we're singing off the same page. I was saying the periscope looking thing was something marking an obstruction in the water like a shoal or a rock. I certainly wasn't saying it was a submarine periscope.

AF

Horace Debussy Jones · Jan 11, 2014

Lambaste me then, for mentioning it.

But, the pic might have been taken with a telephoto lens which flattens perspective and makes objects appear closer together than they actually are in real life. So maybe plausible?,..or impossible,..I dunno. Just speculating.

Atticus Finch said:
Easy there, Otter. I think we're singing off the same page. I was saying the periscope looking thing was something marking an obstruction in the water like a shoal or a rock. I certainly wasn't saying it was a submarine periscope.

AF

Otter · Jan 12, 2014

Atticus Finch said:
Easy there, Otter. I think we're singing off the same page. I was saying the periscope looking thing was something marking an obstruction in the water like a shoal or a rock. I certainly wasn't saying it was a submarine periscope.

AF

Apologies Atticus, I miscalled you, you realy didn't deserve that.

BTW, have a crawl round that site there are some interesting shots of some US coatal bunkers.

Captain Nemo · Jan 13, 2014

Otter said:
Apologies Atticus, I miscalled you, you realy didn't deserve that.

BTW, have a crawl round that site there are some interesting shots of some US coatal bunkers.

That is a neat site. It is amazing to see all the things that are left behind to decay when time and circumstances move on.

Otter · Jan 13, 2014

If you liked that then check out Subterranea Britannica (if I spelled that correctly) . It is another interesting site, loads of piccies of WWII and Cold War sites as well as abandoned mines and stations.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/

I found this fascinating, very few people ever knew of its existance.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/sites/r/rhydymwyn/history.html

Captain Nemo · Jan 14, 2014

Otter said:
If you liked that then check out Subterranea Britannica (if I spelled that correctly) . It is another interesting site, loads of piccies of WWII and Cold War sites as well as abandoned mines and stations.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/

I found this fascinating, very few people ever knew of its existance.

http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/sites/r/rhydymwyn/history.html

Neat! Thanks for the additional website.

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