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• Feb 6, 2016

• #10,641

Frunobulax

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Pink and Dallas Green (who I'm not familiar with). There are a few photos with him in this or a similar hat, and also some other lids.

I also think it's a modern Royal Quality Stratoliner with the brim up.

 

• Feb 6, 2016

• #10,642

Frunobulax

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• Feb 6, 2016

• #10,643

scottyrocks

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Hipster/stingy is 2" or usually less.

 

• Feb 6, 2016

• #10,644

belfastboy

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I have brims that I wear snapped down from 2 1/4, to 2 3/8" and up. To me the 2 1/4" is the minimum for a snap down brim and have it look like a fedora. Anything less IMHO is a stingy and strays into the horror of "hipster"ville.

 

• Feb 6, 2016

• #10,645

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hatflick1

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belfastboy said:

I have brims that I wear snapped down from 2 1/4, to 2 3/8" and up. To me the 2 1/4" is the minimum for a snap down brim and have it look like a fedora. Anything less IMHO is a stingy and strays into the horror of "hipster"ville.

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I appreciate the input.

 

• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,646

JackieMatra

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hatflick1 said:

-What was the width of the fedoras Bogey wore? 2 1/2? or less?

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Depends upon the movie, and, one really can't be certain, but the general opinion, which I would agree with, is that they were probably mostly about 2.5", with some as small as 2.375" but unlikely any shorter, and I would hazard that occasionally they might have been as wide as 2.625".
The crowns of the hats that he wore were nearly always quite tall though, usually probably near 6", or at least 5.75" open.

 

• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,647

alanfgag

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5 3/4" open crowns?? I don't think so.

Humphrey Bogart made movies for about 25 years. Lots of movement in hat styles over those years and many costume designers as well.

 

• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,648

alanfgag

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This 1930s era Mallory is creased to a 4.75" crown at its highest point.

 

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• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,649

belfastboy

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It must be the angle of the pic as the crown height seems so much higher than 4 3/4". Is it a green heathered felt?
Great hat.

 

• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,650

Bob Roberts

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alanfgag said:

This 1930s era Mallory is creased to a 4.75" crown at its highest point.

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Love the felting. Crown. And especially the brim curl!

 

• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,651

alanfgag

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belfastboy said:

It must be the angle of the pic as the crown height seems so much higher than 4 3/4". Is it a green heathered felt?
Great hat.

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Yes, green heather and yes, the camera angle and camera lens distortion (especially with wide angle lenses on cell phone cameras) can have a significant effect. But much of the look we associate with vintage hats is a relationship between crown height, brim width and blocking. This hat seems very tall because of the narrow brim and relatively straight blocking in the crown. I don't believe I have a soft felt dress hat from any era with an open crown higher than 6 inches. I have handled well over 300 but happy to see exceptions from other collections. Western styles are a different story of course. Here are a couple of old hats with high open crowns.

tall derby - 5 3/4" crown

Top hat c. 1860, 7 1/2" crown

 

• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,652

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Brad Bowers

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Great examples of this illusion, Alan. That top hat looks 10+ inches tall!

Brad
~The Hatted Professor

 

• Feb 7, 2016

• #10,653

alanfgag

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I'm not sure I read the post above correctly - 5 3/4" crown uncreased would not be unusual in a 1930s dress hat - allowing a very comfortable bash down to 4 1/4 to 4 1/2". I would guess the Bogart photos I posted above to be in this range. Brim widths were all over the place depending on the year and the fashion.

 

• Feb 9, 2016

• #10,654

LuvMyMan

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Hurricane Jack said:

Only when the in-laws are over.

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Hahah good one! (Can't do that when the in-laws are living with ya)!

 

• Feb 9, 2016

• #10,655

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mtchel

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Thanks for the replies to my questions above about my father in law's hats. Here are some photos. Any insights on style, makeup, value, etc. would be appreciated. I'm trying to keep my mother-in-law from getting low dollar from a store owner if she ends up selling them. These hats were very precious to my father-in-law. He LOVED his fedoras! I know he'd want to get what they're worth. Here's the first one. The pin is pewter.

 

• Feb 9, 2016

• #10,656

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mtchel

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mtchel said:

Thanks for the replies to my questions above about my father in law's hats. Here are some photos. Any insights on style, makeup, value, etc. would be appreciated. I'm trying to keep my mother-in-law from getting low dollar from a store owner if she ends up selling them. These hats were very precious to my father-in-law. He LOVED his fedoras! I know he'd want to get what they're worth.

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• Feb 9, 2016

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mtchel

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• Feb 9, 2016

• #10,658

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mtchel

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• Feb 9, 2016

• #10,659

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mtchel

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mtchel said:

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Last one - Again, any insights on age, materials and value would be appreciated!

 

• Feb 9, 2016

• #10,660

moontheloon

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I could be wrong but I don't think any of those hats are any older than the 1960s.... most of them probably being later than that

not a whole lot of value there ... if your father in law loved them your mother in law may just be better off keeping them

their sentimental value may be substantially more then their monetary worth

my theory is ... a hat is only worth what it is worth to YOU

 

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