Aero FQHH concern

Witchtrip · Oct 27, 2016

Hey guys,
I have a question that I've wanted to get some opinions on. I took delivery of my first FQHH Aero premier HWM in July. I've worn it as much as possible this summer indoors trying to break it in a little and it's probably seen no more than 5 hours of wear.

Curiously, at certain angles the black FQHH looks like the dye has absorbed into the leather (or slightly rubbed off) and has an uneven "grey" appearance. On the sleeves and yoke, there's actually a slight nap (like suede - I can smooth the leather by rubbing it with my hand one direction and then "bring it up" by running a finger or 2 in the opposite direction. See pics)

I've also noticed wear/color change appearing around the cuffs, shoulders, front of collar, which is fine, but I've barely worn this thing. I expect the color to wear off in high use spots, but has anyone else experienced any of these aspects with black FQHH?

I understand hides are all variable/organic things, but I'm concerned this hide perhaps wasn't tanned properly(?) as all the FQHH leather samples I received have a very smooth, glossy finish that seems like the leather is "sealed". My jacket is less glossy and is has a rougher quality. I chose FQHH for its reputation of being bullet/weather resistant, but I don't have enough experience to know if mine is part of the variable aspect. I trust Aero would not accept sub standard hides for their jackets...

I welcome all thoughts and pics if you have experienced anything similar.

Thanks!

Steve27752 · Oct 27, 2016

I would not be happy, I would send the pics to Aero and send the jacket back to them.

Peacoat · Oct 27, 2016

I don't have one and have no way to compare them, but I wonder if this could be a brown hide with a black overdye? Perhaps some Loungers with this type of hide will chime in.

Edward · Oct 27, 2016

I've only owned brown and Cordovan in the FQHH, so can't comment directly on the black. This seems unusual in a short space of time, unless it was one of those 'teacore' hides that are designed to age fast. The three stripes I see in some shots - are they just shadow on the leather or are they actually present on the hide? They seem unusual.

I'd drop Holly a line and send your photos, see what she comes up with.

Witchtrip · Oct 27, 2016

The lines are raised by drawing them - the arms and yoke have this suede-like quality that I'm not very happy about. I'll talk to Carrie. I wanted some opinions here before I mentioned anything. Thanks guys!

ton312 · Oct 27, 2016

Those lines are very odd...I've never seen anything like that. I'd certainly br reaching out to Aero about that. I'm sure they'll make it right.

Witchtrip · Oct 27, 2016

ton312 said:
Those lines are very odd...I've never seen anything like that. I'd certainly br reaching out to Aero about that. I'm sure they'll make it right.

Thanks Ton, the lines are made by drawing them. I could write words out - the sleeves and back have this suede-like aspect that I don't care for and am deeply concerned about how it will age. I do not want a sueded "grey" black leather jacket

ton312 · Oct 27, 2016

Witchtrip said:
Thanks Ton, the lines are made by drawing them. I could write words out - the sleeves and back have this suede-like aspect that I don't care for and am deeply concerned about how it will age. I do not want a sueded "grey" black leather jacket

Yeah a CXL jacket should never have a rough out texture...very odd indeed.

Worf · Oct 27, 2016

Never seen anything like that. I've one black FQHH and it's been worn regularly the last 2 years and nothing has developed like that. Let Carrie know I'm sure they'll jump right on it. She's great at communication.

Worf

Witchtrip · Oct 27, 2016

Whew, thanks guys. I've already written her.

A couple of members have PMed me and have helped tremendously.

Yeah, all the samples I received of FQHH were these glossy, juicy, smooth colors - really beautiful. No nap at all. From the beginning I was disappointed that my jacket wasn't as shiny as the samples, but I know there are variables, etc... One thing is certain, I do not want a grey suede jacket in a year.

Hammerklavier · Oct 27, 2016

Glad you shared you experience with Aero, you definitely should return it back

OceanBreeze · Oct 28, 2016

Sorry to hear that you are having problems. Unfortunately ordering from a reputable company doesn't guarantee that there will be no problems. As I believe I mentioned in another thread, I ordered a leather sofa from a highly reputable manufacturer and it began fading in only 6 months.

Well, I hope my Aero in black vincenza doesn't have any issues. I suspect that they are quite rare.

tmitchell59 · Oct 28, 2016

I owned this Aero Hercules in Black FQHH. It was as you thought it should look like, more shiney finish in deep black, smooth to the touch, no nape. Certainly worth asking about.

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Witchtrip · Oct 28, 2016

Yes, it's pretty disappointing when things develop issues, but I'm confident we'll be able to sort it out. I'm just happy that I splurged and ordered a vicenza board racer as well, so I have something to wear this fall. The vicenza BR is beyond description - it's a superlative jacket & hide!

cuchulain · Oct 28, 2016

The ability to draw on that horse hide like suede is definitely not normal and I wouldn't accept it. I'm sure Aero will take care of you. That said I can't wait for the shine to wear off my jacket, it's driving me nuts.

AeroFan_07 · Oct 28, 2016

Right after seeing your photos, I went and grabbed my also very newly purchased J106 made of FQHH, and it has just a little bit of "feel" or nap to it, however no color differential the way I see yours is developing. I agree something is odd/off about that. I cannot make "lines" with my fingers on the sleeves/shoulders/back of my J106.

That said, all the Horsehide Aero's I've witnessed so far had a little bit of a "nap" or "hand" feel that's a little like microscopic hair on the leather itself. It's not present on any Steer/Cow/Goat jacket I've owned. Is that just a normal "feel" for HH?

frussell · Oct 28, 2016

To the OP, your photos make this look a lot like "oil pull" leather. The matte texture/sheen, and the ability to raise marks like that are characteristics of that type of leather, sometimes referred to as "oil pull-up leather." I've never seen Chromexcel FQHH do that, even when broken in. Hope you get what you need. Frank

Sloan1874 · Oct 28, 2016

Aero's oil pull is brown, no other colour. I would definitely get in touch with Holly or Denny with your concerns. It could be, and this does happen, that what you have there is a jacket made using a rogue batch of quick-wear leather. Horween do make leathers where the top-coat is looser than normal, speeding up the patina process.

navetsea · Oct 28, 2016

to me it looks like pull-up leather indeed

Fonzie · Oct 28, 2016

I have a pull-up leather from Aero and the effect is the same as in your jacket when I rub my finger in it. Mine is brown though.

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