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AbridgedPause · Nov 22, 2017

I have a friend who has a Royal Stetson that he found in a second-hand store, so there's no history to back it up. Under the Stetson logo on the sweatband, there's nothing written. The American-made Stetsons which I have seen say "John B. Stetson Company", while the Canadian-made ones say "Made in Canada". But this one doesn't have anything written under the logo. Does this indicate something?

hatsRme · Nov 22, 2017

AbridgedPause said:
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I have a friend who has a Royal Stetson that he found in a second-hand store, so there's no history to back it up. Under the Stetson logo on the sweatband, there's nothing written. The American-made Stetsons which I have seen say "John B. Stetson Company", while the Canadian-made ones say "Made in Canada". But this one doesn't have anything written under the logo. Does this indicate something?

Yes, it does.

Antinomy · Nov 22, 2017

Dear friens!
I need to stitching new sweatbant to my hat, but i can't understand how? The place for stitching is very tiny

FedoraFan112390 · Nov 22, 2017

What kind of hat would my father's be described as, and what sort of band is that? Would like to find one similar

As you can see it was a bit floppy. These are the only pictures I have of it.

humanshoes · Nov 22, 2017

I need to stitching new sweatbant to my hat, but i can't understand how? The place for stitching is very tiny[/QUOTE]

You may benefit from this tutorial:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/stitch-awl-tutorial-sweatband-installation.38010/

Antinomy · Nov 22, 2017

humanshoes said:
I need to stitching new sweatbant to my hat, but i can't understand how? The place for stitching is very tiny

You may benefit from this tutorial:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/stitch-awl-tutorial-sweatband-installation.38010/[/QUOTE]
in this tutorial the sweatband with the wide place for stitching

Ken David · Nov 23, 2017

Anybody have any luck repairing (not replacing) a vintage sweatband? I purchased a vintage hat that I knew had some cracking in the sweatband. I applied lexol before wearing it (wore it twice) but after a little sweat and a second application the front of the sweat is totally deteriorated. My guess I will have to replace the sweat but was hoping to possibly patch it some how. I guess I should of not messed with it :-(

BobHufford · Nov 23, 2017

Ken David said:
My guess I will have to replace the sweat but was hoping to possibly patch it some how.

Duct tape?

Nicotine · Nov 23, 2017

Can you help ID this hat?

http://www.stetson.com/store/hi-low-sleeveless-top-2.html?nosto=nosto-page-product3

The hat this woman is wearing in the pictures. It's probably a safe assumption it's a Stetson, but which one?

I thought perhaps the Stratoliner?

http://www.stetson.com/store/hats/fedora/stratoliner-3.html?color=walnut

Also, any idea on and ID for this hat Billy Ray wore on the Rachel Ray show recently?

jlee562 · Nov 23, 2017

Nicotine said:
Can you help ID this hat?

http://www.stetson.com/store/hi-low-sleeveless-top-2.html?nosto=nosto-page-product3

The hat this woman is wearing in the pictures. It's probably a safe assumption it's a Stetson, but which one?

I thought perhaps the Stratoliner?

http://www.stetson.com/store/hats/fedora/stratoliner-3.html?color=walnut

Also, any idea on and ID for this hat Billy Ray wore on the Rachel Ray show recently?

I'm 98% sure she's wearing the Stetson Dune. You can just barely make out the 2 ply band, pin, and feather.

Billy looks to be wearing a custom lid. There's no band, and the thickness of the felt seems heavier than dress weight. Possibly a Fouquet lid, maybe Worth and Worth....

theCOOP · Nov 23, 2017

Just came home with this too-small Biltmore Panda.

What a hat!

belfastboy · Nov 23, 2017

BobHufford said:
Duct tape?

That is where I went with it to but decided to refrain from the post....but now you have broken the ice....you can get duct tape in all manner of colour now...perhaps one to match the colour of the sweat?

johnnycanuck · Nov 24, 2017

FedoraFan112390 said:
What kind of hat would my father's be described as, and what sort of band is that? Would like to find one similar

As you can see it was a bit floppy. These are the only pictures I have of it.

The first two pictures look like cotton safari hats. Like the kind Tilley makes.
this https://www.tilley.com/ca_en/t3-cotton-duck-hat.html
or this https://www.tilley.com/ca_en/ltm3-airflo-hat.html for the green under brim.
Just add your own hat band.
Now the third picture is interesting. it almost looks like a straw open road hat with a wide cattleman's crease.
back in the 70's they used to add fabric under the brims of straw hats for added sun protection and reduced glare. closest I can find is this https://www.sunbody.com/index.cfm/product/589_1/open-road.cfm
Do you know what it was made form? Straw? Felt? cotton?
Hope that helps some.

scottyrocks · Nov 24, 2017

Ken David said:
Anybody have any luck repairing (not replacing) a vintage sweatband? I purchased a vintage hat that I knew had some cracking in the sweatband. I applied lexol before wearing it (wore it twice) but after a little sweat and a second application the front of the sweat is totally deteriorated. My guess I will have to replace the sweat but was hoping to possibly patch it some how. I guess I should of not messed with it :-(

I'm a big fan of originality but when leather is so dry that it crumbles, it's time for replacement.

I used the Brad Bowers stitch-awl tutorial for the first time many years ago and have repaired quite a few hats using that method since.

At this point I use a heavy needle and upholstery thread and lock-stitch each stitch as I go around. This has worked as well for me as using the stitch-awl with the advantage of not having a second long piece of thread lying about as I work.

Ken David · Nov 24, 2017

belfastboy said:
That is where I went with it to but decided to refrain from the post....but now you have broken the ice....you can get duct tape in all manner of colour now...perhaps one to match the colour of the sweat?

Gray seems to work fine for now LOL

scottyrocks said:
I'm a big fan of originality but when leather is so dry that it crumbles, it's time for replacement.

I used the Brad Bowers stitch-awl tutorial for the first time many years ago and have repaired quite a few hats using that method since.

At this point I use a heavy needle and upholstery thread and lock-stitch each stitch as I go around. This has worked as well for me as using the stitch-awl with the advantage of not having a second long piece of thread lying about as I work.

Thanks Scotty for the tip, I will have to pick up a stich awl. I already have plenty of upholstery thread and heavy duty needles (I have an industrial walking foot Singer sewing machine that I been messing around with the last couple months). Reason why I don't buy Vintage lids....I am better off sticking with customs. Oh well live and learn I guess.

Cane Rod Maker · Nov 24, 2017

BobHufford said:
Duct tape?

DUCT TAPE: Acceptable in stock car racing, for a quick repair to continue the race. As for hat fixing....yikes.

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deadlyhandsome · Nov 25, 2017

Hello all,
I'm looking at a used Bee Hats Dakota 5X Beaver western hat that I'm considering for a conversion.

deadlyhandsome · Nov 25, 2017

Let me try again:
Hello all,
I'm looking at a used Bee Hats Dakota 5X Beaver western that I'm considering for a conversion. I don't know anything about the company. Did they make decent hats? Are they worth the effort? Thanks,

Brent

Cane Rod Maker · Nov 25, 2017

Bee hats of vintage, I've seen over the years, but only felt one. Almost like Penny, but that, is from a small short observation. I'd say if the price is right let it rip.

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Levallois · Nov 25, 2017

Is there a way to determine whether a fur hatband Is real or not?

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