CoffeeDude
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Up here in Seattle, I'd be tempted to get the more weather proof version, but only if they could improve the collar.
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Rick Deckard coat Blade Runner
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Hey Coffeedude! It is good to see you here, stranger.
Hey Coffeedude! It is good to see you here, stranger.
CoffeeDude
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Thanks MK. When things calm down here in a few weeks I am going to need to relax with a flying pie. Know where I can get one? 
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I think I might know a place.
Just make sure it is after I return from London. One should never eat a flying pie alone.
I think I might know a place.
Just make sure it is after I return from London. One should never eat a flying pie alone.
CoffeeDude
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I never do. I always have a beer with it. :beer: When do you get back from London?MK said:
Mycroft said:
It is easier to just start from scratch. I don't think there is enough spare fabric on a normal coat to make the changes, and I could not find a single breasted trench with the right sleeves. I used a standard trench to make the base pattern and then modified it to create the Deckard Coat.
griffer
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I am in the market for one of these, or an off the rack close approximation.
Any ideas?
Any ideas?
johnnycanuck
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Doing a little on-line research I have not found anything bad posted about http://www.abbyshot.com/products/ps-deckard-trench.php
e-mail and ask about sizing. In my experience they have good communication.
Johnny.
e-mail and ask about sizing. In my experience they have good communication.
Johnny.
Edward
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I do like the Deckard coat. I didn't care for Blade Runner when I first saw it, but like so many other things, I find that either i have changed, or it has grown on me. I have only ever seen the director's cut, not the (much maligned) cinematic release.
Deckard's look in its entirety wasn't for me, but I do think aside from it being a little 80s for me that it wasn't a bad stab at getting the look of a 30s noir detective who landed naked in a future charity shop (thrift store?) and clothed himself in something approaching a familiar style based on what was available to hand. I guess the military equivalent would have been a WW2 GI landing in a modern GAP.... lol
Deckard's look in its entirety wasn't for me, but I do think aside from it being a little 80s for me that it wasn't a bad stab at getting the look of a 30s noir detective who landed naked in a future charity shop (thrift store?) and clothed himself in something approaching a familiar style based on what was available to hand. I guess the military equivalent would have been a WW2 GI landing in a modern GAP.... lol
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The voiceover version is the only true version of Blade Runner.
Everything else is revisionist history.
Everything else is revisionist history.
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Feraud said:
For real? I've only ever encountered folks who have a very definite preference for the DC before. I can't comment myself as, as stated, I haven't seen the voiceover.
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Edward said:
Not to get too off topic but all film (including Blade Runner) have their faults.
The same people who cry "artistic foul!" at directors like Spielberg and Lucas for tampering with their original films apparently have no problem with Ridley Scott removing and adding elements (plot revisions) to his. Go figure..
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the voice-over and happy ending in the original were studio-enforced changes. surely it's perfectly valid for a director to re-cut a film the way he originally intended at a later date ? i don't think that's the same thing as tampering.
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herringbonekid said:
I tend to agree with the sentiment. Along comes Spielberg and replaces shotgun wielding governement agents chasing children with walkie talking versions. Lucas opts to justify Solo shooting Greedo by giving him proper justification. In both films (E.T. & Star Wars) the directors returned to edit their own work.
Once we start down that slippery slope...
Edit- Regarding Blade Runner, I like the voice over and can ignore the happy ending. The real travesty is the implication of Deckard's humanity. Now that changes the entire tone of the film!
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I will forever be torn between the two versions.
I rather like the voice over. There could be less of it.
And I also like the orgami commentary, unicorn implants, etc.
I am curious what the definitive version will be... a hybrid of International version, theater, both 'director's cuts'...
I want the best of both extremes.
I rather like the voice over. There could be less of it.
And I also like the orgami commentary, unicorn implants, etc.
I am curious what the definitive version will be... a hybrid of International version, theater, both 'director's cuts'...
I want the best of both extremes.
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I saw a pre-release screening of Blade Runner that had the voice over, but not the happy ending. The film ended with the elevator doors crashing closed. But was the voice over an addition imposed by a studio? Or was it part of the original. If you watch a non-voice over edition, notice the scene where Deckard is waiting for a seat at the outdoor sushi bar. Without the voice over the timing of the scene is all wrong.
So who knows? Great film though.
Tony
So who knows? Great film though.
Tony
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Maybe there is a definitve, compromise version yet to be made....
I can understand both sides of the argument, really - Feraud & HBK make a good point re the Lucas / Spielberg issue.... I do find often that the Director's cut version of some films really adds nothing, in others it's significant (thinking especially of the Return of the King, where the extended version adds in Sauron's fate, a significant tying up of a plot thread that was missing in the cinematic release - cut for time). IMO, the recently released Richard Donner version of Superman II was a far superior film to the version the Studio cut after he finished. The one I'm still waiting for though is a Frank Oz cut of Little Shop of Horrors - it's an absolute trasvesty what the Studio did to that - they spent six million dollars on a fantastic end sequence, true to the original show, only to replace it with the crappy happy ending because the test audiences whined about it. I guess movie studios are in the business of making money, not art.
Really, what I'm getting at is that the director's cut is not always superior: sometimes, they got it right first time around, and the later revamp is only adding in stuff that wasn't good enough to go in originally, or just padding it out for the DVd release to sell more. Self indulgence happens. Other times, the cinematic release bears the hallmarks of studio fiddling to the denigration of the whole, and a director's cut removes those alterations.
Anyhow, sorry to have run off OT... to bring it back in line with the thread, whichever version of Blade Runner people like bette,r they both have that same cool coat!
I can understand both sides of the argument, really - Feraud & HBK make a good point re the Lucas / Spielberg issue.... I do find often that the Director's cut version of some films really adds nothing, in others it's significant (thinking especially of the Return of the King, where the extended version adds in Sauron's fate, a significant tying up of a plot thread that was missing in the cinematic release - cut for time). IMO, the recently released Richard Donner version of Superman II was a far superior film to the version the Studio cut after he finished. The one I'm still waiting for though is a Frank Oz cut of Little Shop of Horrors - it's an absolute trasvesty what the Studio did to that - they spent six million dollars on a fantastic end sequence, true to the original show, only to replace it with the crappy happy ending because the test audiences whined about it. I guess movie studios are in the business of making money, not art.
Really, what I'm getting at is that the director's cut is not always superior: sometimes, they got it right first time around, and the later revamp is only adding in stuff that wasn't good enough to go in originally, or just padding it out for the DVd release to sell more. Self indulgence happens. Other times, the cinematic release bears the hallmarks of studio fiddling to the denigration of the whole, and a director's cut removes those alterations.
Anyhow, sorry to have run off OT... to bring it back in line with the thread, whichever version of Blade Runner people like bette,r they both have that same cool coat!
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Edward said:
I am very curious to see if that is the route Scott takes with this fall's release.
He actually re-shot scenes.
Due to cost overruns, the footage available to him for the theatrical cut and the later director's cut did not represent what he was trying to do entirely.
And yes, sometimes, the director's cut is just a longer version with scenes jammed in for marketing.
That said, with 5 versions in the new box set this fall, there's bound to be one that is pretty close to my ideal.
And as much as I like the DC, the the first scene with Harrison isn't the same without, "Sushi. That's what my ex-wife called me. Cold fish."
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The fabric isn't quite as screen accurate in colour but here's another one. http://baronboutique.com/movie_replica_2.htm (Scroll down to the bottom.)
I wouldn't particularly recommend AbbyShot. I once was interested in getting something of theirs, got some really disappointing fabric samples, and also got run-around or non-replies to some very important questions of mine. The fabrics are mostly synthetic blends... yes, even the "wools" are about half synthetic. Also, their garment construction seems little more than based off an adjusted pattern (when they touted their products as "custom tailored") and things like standing collars on coats are just fused and not canvas interlined. Abby herself even tried to convince me -- back when they had a forum -- that fusing was perfectly fine, given everyone in the industry does it. We should all lower our standards because everyone else does. That's comforting. Maybe the reason they don't show customer pictures of their Neo coats much either is because it's apparent the collar and other important areas don't fit them right and bunch up in all the wrong places. Frankly, I'm not impressed.
I wouldn't particularly recommend AbbyShot. I once was interested in getting something of theirs, got some really disappointing fabric samples, and also got run-around or non-replies to some very important questions of mine. The fabrics are mostly synthetic blends... yes, even the "wools" are about half synthetic. Also, their garment construction seems little more than based off an adjusted pattern (when they touted their products as "custom tailored") and things like standing collars on coats are just fused and not canvas interlined. Abby herself even tried to convince me -- back when they had a forum -- that fusing was perfectly fine, given everyone in the industry does it. We should all lower our standards because everyone else does. That's comforting.
Maybe the reason they don't show customer pictures of their Neo coats much either is because it's apparent the collar and other important areas don't fit them right and bunch up in all the wrong places. Frankly, I'm not impressed.
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Jovan said:
It looks short.
I emailed him.
Erik
