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dudewuttheheck

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What an interesting turn to the conversation!

I’m actually struggling to think of ANY casual clothing item that hasn’t been repurposed to some degree.

Engineer boots from well engineers, converse sneakers etc from basketball and skateboarders (I think), gym shoes from the gym obviously.

On the pants, jeans were workwear, khaki/chinos were military pants from India I believe.

Various jackets from either motorcycle or military/aviation beginnings.

Hell even the humble T-shirt used to be underwear.....does that mean everyone is just wearing a costume of sorts to some degree???
Exactly! Everything is repurposed to some degree, but I think that's actually a great thing overall.

@Big J I think part of his point was that professional photographers do not use the cheapest Nikons and Canons. I know a few pro photographers and all of them have either a Canon 5d series, 1d series, or Nikon D800 series. These are all extremely expensive and far from the least expensive options. I will admit that the one guy that I know has a Leica is a very wealthy business owner who does photography as his main hobby.

I have the current quintessential amateur photography camera, a Fuji X-T2 and I adore it for what that's worth and have no problem with it not being a full frame Nikon or a Leica.
 

Mich486

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What an interesting turn to the conversation!

I’m actually struggling to think of ANY casual clothing item that hasn’t been repurposed to some degree.

Engineer boots from well engineers, converse sneakers etc from basketball and skateboarders (I think), gym shoes from the gym obviously.

On the pants, jeans were workwear, khaki/chinos were military pants from India I believe.

Various jackets from either motorcycle or military/aviation beginnings.

Hell even the humble T-shirt used to be underwear.....does that mean everyone is just wearing a costume of sorts to some degree???

I agree with what you say.

Taking this argument to the extreme though, I wonder what we should wear when not working (this might indeed call for workwear lol) if not repurposing anything? Just suit, shirts and dress shoes? That sounds a weird thing to do these days and probably I’d look more out of place buying groceries in a suit than in repurposed workwear.

On the repurposing itself than I believe there are distinctions to be made but this is probably subjective and highly dependent on the current trends. If you wear a bold vintage or new-vintage piece of clothing that isn’t fashionable at the moment, you look costumey no matter what that is. Take the cross-zip, now they are everywhere (like they were in the ‘80s I’m told) but 15 years ago you’d stick out like a sore thumb.




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Big J

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@dudewhattheheck, yeah, my bad. I'm blunt to the point of rudeness. Partly because I actually am blunt and rude, but mainly due to how tiresome it is to tap out text on my phone with my clumsy sausage fingers.

@Mich486, yes, what do people wear when they're not working? In fact, let's take that a step further; What do people wear when they are relaxing at home? A cravat?
In winter I wear flannel pajamas and a silk robe any time of day like I'm channeling Hugh Hefner AND Leslie Phillips at the same time. In summer I go for a linen yukata. Always gives postie a surprise when they bring a delivery for me.
 

Big J

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Not much chance of any pics until I get the tapatalk app or something. And I'm a complete Luddite. I tried cashing out of Bitcoin on and off most days last week and couldn't get it to work until one of my kids came home and did it for me. I was a bit annoyed because it was meant to be my secret stash.
 

jonesy86

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What an interesting turn to the conversation!

I’m actually struggling to think of ANY casual clothing item that hasn’t been repurposed to some degree.

Engineer boots from well engineers, converse sneakers etc from basketball and skateboarders (I think), gym shoes from the gym obviously.

On the pants, jeans were workwear, khaki/chinos were military pants from India I believe.

Various jackets from either motorcycle or military/aviation beginnings.

Hell even the humble T-shirt used to be underwear.....does that mean everyone is just wearing a costume of sorts to some degree???

I am sure there are very educated folks on this forum who could answer these questions re. sociology, psychology and clothing. In skimming a few academic articles, I learned a new word, semiotics. I think it gets pretty complicated quickly, and I only skimmed these articles, published by un-vetted sources. I have a short attention span.

I think that we are all wearing costumes of one sort or another, and that it relates to social and socioeconomic status, class, profession, gender, religion, national origin, clan, ethnicity, or even what village you come from. I am clearly not an academic, so I went to Wikipedia and read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics_of_dress

Interesting stuff, I plan to read up on it as soon as I get off this forum and ebay looking for good deal another leather jacket with 27" sleeves.

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jonesy86

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Not much chance of any pics until I get the tapatalk app or something. And I'm a complete Luddite. I tried cashing out of Bitcoin on and off most days last week and couldn't get it to work until one of my kids came home and did it for me. I was a bit annoyed because it was meant to be my secret stash.
Your kids probably transferred your bitcoin into gold, and have an account in Panama. :)
 

Big J

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@jonesy86, 'transferred' into handbags and shoes is more likely.

I agree with you and ProteinNerd, it's fascinating about the functions of clothes. I think Edward knows a fair bit about this.
 

jonesy86

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@jonesy86, 'transferred' into handbags and shoes is more likely.

I agree with you and ProteinNerd, it's fascinating about the functions of clothes. I think Edward knows a fair bit about this.
Henry David Thoreau once said: “It is an interesting question how far men would retain their relative rank if they were divested of their clothes”

Cool dude, look at me quoting Thoreau! Ok, not back to ebay. :p
 

davyjones007

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I always go with brown boots and brown jacket. Black boots with black jacket. Luckily, I only have one black leather jacket, a Vanson PLU-3 that I ride with. Most of the time I wear Clarks chukkas or Alden 405s with my Aero Half-belt, A-2 or G-1 jackets.
 

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heheh lucky I love canvass belt, one less factor for matchy matchy... but I somehow see if your brown is light or medium, it would match with black no problem, as long as there is another clothes in the same color with one of the leather item, for example:
black pants + black leather jacket + whatever t-shirt + mid brown leather shoes
or
mid brown leather jacket +grey/black shirt + black pants + black leather shoes
both seem fine to me

the problem is where you wear blue jeans + whatever shirt (patterned or other colors) + leather jacket + leather shoes + leather belt
then the leather jacket and shoes probably should match if both items are still purely black or brown (when both are already faded, scuffed, etc, then it shouldn't matter), or at least 2 of the 3 leather item should match in color perhaps because natural leather belt probably wouldn't color match with anything, just my own baseless opinion though.
 

jonesy86

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heheh lucky I love canvass belt, one less factor for matchy matchy... but I somehow see if your brown is light or medium, it would match with black no problem, as long as there is another clothes in the same color with one of the leather item, for example:
black pants + black leather jacket + whatever t-shirt + mid brown leather shoes
or
mid brown leather jacket +grey/black shirt + black pants + black leather shoes
both seem fine to me

the problem is where you wear blue jeans + whatever shirt (patterned or other colors) + leather jacket + leather shoes + leather belt
then the leather jacket and shoes probably should match if both items are still purely black or brown (when both are already faded, scuffed, etc, then it shouldn't matter), or at least 2 of the 3 leather item should match in color perhaps because natural leather belt probably wouldn't color match with anything, just my own baseless opinion though.
Well GQ seems to think that it is not so important to match your belt with your shoes anymore. And I have always tried to keep up with GQ....not. I used to wear black work shoes with white socks. The horror. I'm outdated. Still, i'm not going to wear an orange belt with anything.
:)

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/gq-style-shrink-should-belts-and-shoes-match
 
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I truly hate boots. It's an odd thing b/c I think they look great, nothing looks better with jeans and a leather jacket imho. I love the look of quality, broken in boots, especially engineers and jump type, lace up boots. I just can't wear them. The feeling of a mid calf enigineer boot is equivalent to rubbing shards of broken glass all over my body and bathing in hot sauce. Despite how cool they look, and they do look cool, the feeling of wearing them for me is unbearable.
I also despise a stepped heal. I much prefer flat, wedge type soles. That's why I only wear chukka/ desert boots, when I have to.
I'd love to find a perfect pair of boots one day but I've all but given up on trying. I'm content to dodge death and slip and slide all over the place in some leather chuck T's and heavy ass socks during Chicago's (formerly) fierce winter.
 

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I truly hate boots. It's an odd thing b/c I think they look great, nothing looks better with jeans and a leather jacket imho. I love the look of quality, broken in boots, especially engineers and jump type, lace up boots. I just can't wear them. The feeling of a mid calf enigineer boot is equivalent to rubbing shards of broken glass all over my body and bathing in hot sauce. Despite how cool they look, and they do look cool, the feeling of wearing them for me is unbearable. I also despise a stepped heal. I much prefer flat, wedge type soles. That's why I only wear chukka/ desert boots, when I have to.
I'd love to find a perfect pair of boots one day but I've all but given up on trying.

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