Panama Hat Thread

deadlyhandsome · Jul 6, 2018

steur said:
I've had this hat for quite some time, but forgot to post it here. Not a fine woven panama by any standard, but the way it was woven give it character. The quite coarse straw gives it a nice airy texture. Sized m, brim at 6,5 cm and crown 10cm at the pinch. The brim is underwelted and was then bound with the brown ribbon. No bow, just a ribbon and keeper. The English Hatter is not English at all actually, but a hat and clothing shop in the centre of Amsterdam (Heiligeweg). It's been there a long time and are still in business today; worth taking a look at if you're in the neighbourhood.

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That weave makes the hat. I might need one of those... are they still in production?

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SHatfield · Jul 7, 2018

Ok, I tried to understand a thread on here about weave counting but I got thoroughly confused. This is supposed to be a monticristi super fino hat from Panama Hats Direct. I understand rating is not even across the board. Can someone tell me simply how to count these weaves? I would be grateful.

Steve

Danbar99 · Jul 7, 2018

SHatfield said:
View attachment 125715 Ok, I tried to understand a thread on here about weave counting but I got thoroughly confused. This is supposed to be a monticristi super fino hat from Panama Hats Direct. I understand rating is not even across the board. Can someone tell me simply how to count these weaves? I would be grateful.

Steve

Hi Steve, it's as simple as counting each stitch in a once inch line both horizontally and vertically. When counting horizontally, they align ///, when counting vertically, they zigzag
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Hats tend to have more vertical weaves than horizontal. Yours appears to have 17 vertical which most would not qualify as a super fino though there are no real distinctions. The high quality cuenca I just bought is an 18x21, photo attached.

drmaxtejeda · Jul 7, 2018

Bill Hughes said:
This is what I believe is another Pilgrim but unlabeled. The pug is sewn on this hat and I kinda like the color so it stays, at least for now. Again a sponge and water is all I used. I was able to get rid of surface dirt/grime and reshape.

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What do you think would happen if you used a bit of mild soap mixed in with the water, Bill?

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SHatfield · Jul 7, 2018

Danbar99 said:
Hi Steve, it's as simple as counting each stitch in a once inch line both horizontally and vertically. When counting horizontally, they align ///, when counting vertically, they zigzag
/
\
/
Hats tend to have more vertical weaves than horizontal. Yours appears to have 17 vertical which most would not qualify as a super fino though there are no real distinctions. The cuenca I just bought is an 18x21, photo attached

Alas... I find myself a victim of the dreaded website definition of a term. I still like the hat and didn't pay too much for it. Thanks for the help.

Danbar99 · Jul 7, 2018

SHatfield said:
Alas... I find myself a victim of the dreaded website definition of a term. I still like the hat and didn't pay too much for it. Thanks for the help.

Well that's what matters. I've found many companies seems to adapt quality terms to the quality spectrum of hats they offer, not where the hat sits on the quality spectrum of the general market.

Bill Hughes · Jul 7, 2018

drmaxtejeda said:
What do you think would happen if you used a bit of mild soap mixed in with the water, Bill?

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Funny you should suggest that. I did but did not see any real improvement. No harm either.

drmaxtejeda · Jul 7, 2018

Bill Hughes said:
Funny you should suggest that. I did but did not see any real improvement. No harm either.

Thanks. I was very curious about whether the soap would damage the straw.

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Danbar99 · Jul 8, 2018

Just posting a new pic of me in my new (and actually first ever!) hat giving it what's maybe a third wearing along with some detail shots and one before the ribbon was added. Brand is Homero Ortega, this is a Cuenca that has to my count a 19x21.5 weave count for a WPI slightly over 400.

steur · Jul 8, 2018

RJR said:
I really like the weave.

Thanks, Bob.

steur · Jul 8, 2018

deadlyhandsome said:
That weave makes the hat. I might need one of those... are they still in production?

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Thanks, Brent. It's nice and open; great for ventilation. This is an older one: I don't think they're available any more.

steur · Jul 8, 2018

Danbar99 said:
Just posting a new pic of me in my new (and actually first ever!) hat giving it what's maybe a third wearing along with some detail shots and one before the ribbon was added. Brand is Homero Ortega, this is a Cuenca that has to my count a 19x21.5 weave count for a WPI slightly over 400.
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Welcome to the lounge. Nice hat you have there and you wear it well.

Asudef · Jul 8, 2018

Thats a nice looking hat @Danbar99! Is that the Finga? May I ask how much the hat runs and how the ordering process was?

I'm looking for a wide (3") brim center dent Panama but not really a fan of bleached toquilla. Would any loungers on this thread have suggestions? This Delmonico Agua is exactly what I'm looking for, price, aesthetics, quality wise but seems I'm too late. Also open to vintage pieces but they are so much harder to find.

RJR · Jul 8, 2018

Danbar99 said:
Just posting a new pic of me in my new (and actually first ever!) hat giving it what's maybe a third wearing along with some detail shots and one before the ribbon was added. Brand is Homero Ortega, this is a Cuenca that has to my count a 19x21.5 weave count for a WPI slightly over 400.
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Nice hat,looks good on you.

AndyR · Jul 8, 2018

SHatfield said:
Alas... I find myself a victim of the dreaded website definition of a term. I still like the hat and didn't pay too much for it. Thanks for the help.

I truly believe that the terms don't really match the hats at PHD. I ordered a Super Fino as well and I'm certain I got a Fino. I'll bet you have to order a Fino Fino to get an actual Super Fino.

I somewhat expected that when I ordered anyway and like you say, it didn't cost a fortune and I'm satisfied with the hat.

Maybe some day I'll be able to justify the price of a superb hat. If not, I can live with what I have.

Danbar99 · Jul 8, 2018

Asudef said:
Thats a nice looking hat @Danbar99! Is that the Finga? May I ask how much the hat runs and how the ordering process was?

I'm looking for a wide (3") brim center dent Panama but not really a fan of bleached toquilla. Would any loungers on this thread have suggestions? This Delmonico Agua is exactly what I'm looking for, price, aesthetics, quality wise but seems I'm too late. Also open to vintage pieces but they are so much harder to find.

The shape on this is called the "cavalier". Ordering was all done via Facebook messager, with me telling then exactly what I want, and them making it and sending pictures before requesting payment. In terms of pricing, they sent me pictures of weaves at different price points, and I picked what I wanted. This hat cost around $200. They offer many different qualities of weave at different price points for each hat, and let you choose what sort of ribbon (and hat color) you want. It was a two day process to get the details nailed down, and then about another week to receive the hat in the mail. A very efficient and easy process to be honest.

SHatfield · Jul 8, 2018

AndyR said:
I truly believe that the terms don't really match the hats at PHD. I ordered a Super Fino as well and I'm certain I got a Fino. I'll bet you have to order a Fino Fino to get an actual Super Fino.

I somewhat expected that when I ordered anyway and like you say, it didn't cost a fortune and I'm satisfied with the hat.

Maybe some day I'll be able to justify the price of a superb hat. If not, I can live with what I have.

I'm right there with you Andy. I'm not sure I'll ever get my hands on a true super fino as I don't live anywhere near a place where I could look at them. I do know that I like my hat enough compared to any other panama style I have that I'd probably really like a true super fino. I'd also have to have some serious spare cash.

Winston Carter · Jul 9, 2018

Love my Jaxon panama 2.5 brim in summer. Great knock about hat and has an elastic sweat band.

Walter Neff1940 · Jul 9, 2018

Stetson

RJR · Jul 9, 2018

Walter Neff1940 said:
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Good looking,I'm kinda surprised it doesn't have a tip protector with that severe crease.

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