Schott horsehide

Gamma68 · Dec 9, 2018

As many of you know, I just purchased a Schott 613SH. The label says "Made in the USA of imported materials." Being curious, I asked Gail on the Schott forum about the source of the horsehide. She said it's sourced from Italy.

Does that mean it is Vicenza horsehide? I'm not quite sure what Vicenza horsehide is or if that's just the name of a tannery (like Horween).

I'm always seeking to learn more about the leathers used in the jackets we love.

Guppy · Dec 9, 2018

Vicenza is from Italy, but that doesn't mean any and all Italian leather is Vicenza. It's most likely not Vicenza.

Gamma68 · Dec 9, 2018

So Vicenza is just the name of a tannery in Italy?

Carlos840 · Dec 9, 2018

I think Vicenza is just the name of a town in Italy that is famous for its leather business.
Aero just used the name for the leather they get from around there.

Bobby Peru · Dec 9, 2018

Italian horsehide is nothing to be ashamed of. I would have expected Schott to mention the country of origin if the hide source is Italy.

Gamma68 · Dec 9, 2018

Bobby Peru said:
Italian horsehide is nothing to be ashamed of. I would have expected Schott to mention the country of origin if the hide source is Italy.

I would guess that since Schott has historically branded themselves as USA-made, they are a little hesitant to advertise that the materials are made outside of the States.

Superfluous · Dec 9, 2018

There are multiple tanneries in Italy that produce horsehide, including the tannery in Vicenza from which Aero purchases the "Vicenza" hide (Thurston Bros. named the hide after the town), the Victoria tannery, and several others.

Downunder G Man · Dec 9, 2018

I have a Schott 641 café racer size 44" in "HH" , super shiny when I bought it new ex-US a coupla years back.

I loved it immediately , and now it is well broken in it still "smells" divine.

I like it so much I have a Schott 689H in 44" ( again Horsehide ) in the mail from Russia to Perth Western Australia.

Bought thru' the TFL classifieds , my first purchase of that nature actually , always eBay or Aussie gumtree prior.

Can't recommend it ( Schott Horsehide) and Schott enough actually !

Mich486 · Dec 9, 2018

Vicenza leather that Aero used is likely named after the city of Vicenza which, as others have correctly said, is just a city in north eastern Italy (not far from Venice) with a tradition of leather tanning. The other big concentration of tanneries in Italy is found in Tuscany.

That said, the name Vicenza is very generic and it doesn’t help in identifying the actual tannery. Just by looking for “Conceria Vicenza” in Google Maps I can count around 20 different tanneries ranging from small artisanal businesses to bigger companies with operations in several countries.

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Lebowski · Dec 9, 2018

Schott's leather looks opposite to what Aero uses.

Gamma68 · Dec 9, 2018

Superfluous said:
There are multiple tanneries in Italy that produce horsehide, including the tannery in Vicenza from which Aero purchases the "Vicenza" hide (Thurston Bros. named the hide after the town), the Victoria tannery, and several others.

This answers my questions. Thanks!

handymike · Dec 9, 2018

Vicenza is a beautiful place!

But, Aero's "Vicenza" comes from Tuscany.

Bobby Peru · Dec 9, 2018

Gamma68 said:
I would guess that since Schott has historically branded themselves as USA-made, they are a little hesitant to advertise that the materials are made outside of the States.

Good point. That didn’t occur to me.

Downunder G Man · Dec 12, 2018

Just today received my Schott 689H in Horsehide. "new to me" from Russia. I think I'm the 3rd owner maybe ?

Very nice indeed , just a few loose threads , more than I have seen before , may be the previous life of the jacket.

Bigbenbs · Dec 12, 2018

Guppy said:
Vicenza is from Italy, but that doesn't mean any and all Italian leather is Vicenza. It's most likely not Vicenza.

All squares are rhombi but not all rhombi are squares.

Guppy · Dec 12, 2018

Bigbenbs said:
All squares are rhombi but not all rhombi are squares.

I thought a rhombus was a 4-sided figure with where the opposing sides are parallel but the angles of the corners are not right angles. So no square is a rhombus. Shouldn't it be?: All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

HoosierDaddy · Dec 12, 2018

Every Schott that I've owned has had loose threads on the lining. After all they are mass produced. However those loose threads never caused any significant problem for me.
HD

Bigbenbs · Dec 12, 2018

Guppy said:
I thought a rhombus was a 4-sided figure with where the opposing sides are parallel but the angles of the corners are not right angles. So no square is a rhombus. Shouldn't it be?: All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares.

No, a rhombus is simply a 4 sided equilateral parallelogram. Some use the term rhombus to describe a lozenge, which is what your talking about I believe. But that's actually just a kind of rhombus too.

http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.14/h/justin2.html

Downunder G Man · Dec 12, 2018

To Hoosier....yes I trimmed the loose threads off gently with sharp scissors while the jacket was hanging outside airing.

( I do that with all my "new arrivals" !). Then I wore it down to the local hostelry ( AKA PUB !) for Wednesday night steak.

Good to wear , close fitting as Schott in 44" are on me ( this sure aint no Highwayman cut !) . I like it indeed !

navetsea · Dec 13, 2018

Downunder G Man said:
I trimmed the loose threads off gently with sharp scissors

this remind me a funny incident I had when purchasing a raincoat, few years back before I know leather jacket, I buy new cheap plastic raincoat jacket every few years at the beginning of rainy season, while at the store, the seller showed me a brand new raincoat out of the packing, and then I pointed at loose thread hanging on the sleeve, asking if there is a better built one, casually he calmed me down, reaching his lighter and burn off the loose thread, saying its no big deal, but the thread act like a wick, and the flames get into the plastic sleeve, and make a coin size hole.

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