Engineer Boots, Harness Boots...

SpeedRcrX · Feb 19, 2019

Sloan1874 said:
Yes, I meant the colour. I tend to think cordovan, from the French 'heart of wine', is much better term. I have an Aero Hooch Hauler that is the same hue. Burgundy is a bit flat sounding if you ask me.

I don’t think I understand. For me, the word cordovan derives from Cordoue or rather Córdoba, the city in Spain and is a type of leather.

And if you refer to the French “heart of wine” for me it’s the Burdundy region or Gironde and its city of Bordeaux (but it’s debatable all French people will tell your their wine is the best and I’ll be the first to tell you the same thing [emoji16] I’m from “les côtes du Rhône” region)

But you are right cordovan sounds way better than burgundy or bordeaux.

Edward · Feb 19, 2019

It's interesting how the terminology came about - I think it's Horween called a certain shade of leather 'cordovan', and Aero them popularised that; also known as burgundy or oxblood. If memory serves, the hide actually originally known as cordovan carried that sort of oxblood colour naturally when tanned but not dyed?

Edward · Feb 19, 2019

Speed's boots look great, btw! I like having different styles of engineers, from the big round toes to the lower profile options. I tend to think of the latters as 30s/ early 40s and the former as later 40s and into the 50s, though I've seen examples of all shapes across the whole time period, so there doesn't seem to have been that distinction in reality.

Bfd70 · Feb 19, 2019

I really Like the asthetic of a flat narrow boot but my feet sure do apprectiate tall and wide.

Edward · Feb 19, 2019

Bfd70 said:
I really Like the asthetic of a flat narrow boot but my feet sure do apprectiate tall and wide.

I know there's the old debate on whether or not motorcycle boots should have a steel toe, but I remember dropping a heavy wooden drawer on my foot at my student Summer job, and realising the tell toecap in my boot was what had saved me from a very painful breakage!

Northern Monkey · Feb 19, 2019

SpeedRcrX said:

Gorgeous delicious boots [emoji3590]

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Dm101 · Feb 19, 2019

Edward said:
I know there's the old debate on whether or not motorcycle boots should have a steel toe, but I remember dropping a heavy wooden drawer on my foot at my student Summer job, and realising the tell toecap in my boot was what had saved me from a very painful breakage!

I'm realizing the value of a steel toe because I almost broke my toes last friday.
Went to our storage unit to get a few things out. Was wearing my Calvin Klein boots...pointy toe, no reinforcement. The legs for one of our baking racks slid from above and fell right onto the tip of my left boot and smashed a few of my toes when the wife moved a storage crate. I cussed and screamed and there wasn't any real damage, but there could have been a serious problem had it been something heavier and larger.
I think I might look for a set of steel toes for my next pair of engineer boots.

Dm101 · Feb 19, 2019

Ok, so new issue with these CAT engineer boots.

They're too short!

Every time I sit down my cargo pants land in the tops of these boots. Then when I stand up I have to reach down and place my pants end before I can walk...argh.

Sitting...

Standing...

I either need taller boots or longer pants...
It never ends.
[emoji19]

Edward · Feb 19, 2019

Dm101 said:
I'm realizing the value of a steel toe because I almost broke my toes last friday.
Went to our storage unit to get a few things out. Was wearing my Calvin Klein boots...pointy toe, no reinforcement. The legs for one of our baking racks slid from above and fell right onto the tip of my left boot and smashed a few of my toes when the wife moved a storage crate. I cussed and screamed and there wasn't any real damage, but there could have been a serious problem had it been something heavier and larger.
I think I might look for a set of steel toes for my next pair of engineer boots.

Ow, hope they heal up fast. Sore toes are no joke!

Dm101 said:
Ok, so new issue with these CAT engineer boots.

They're too short!

Every time I sit down my cargo pants land in the tops of these boots. Then when I stand up I have to reach down and place my pants end before I can walk...argh.

Sitting...

Standing...

I either need taller boots or longer pants...
It never ends.
[emoji19]

Nah, all you need is a pair of trousers in a heavier fabric with a wider leg...

BobHufford · Feb 19, 2019

Dm101 said:
Ok, so new issue with these CAT engineer boots.

They're too short!

Every time I sit down my cargo pants land in the tops of these boots. Then when I stand up I have to reach down and place my pants end before I can walk...argh.

Sitting...

Standing...

I either need taller boots or longer pants...
It never ends.
[emoji19]

^^^^^ Andy Griffith Syndrome...

Dm101 · Feb 19, 2019

Edward said:
Nah, all you need is a pair of trousers in a heavier fabric with a wider leg...

Yeah, I think you might be right.
I reckon these boots would work great with longer jeans...something that falls harder when standing up...sorts itself naturally...
Hmmm...Guess I will try longer cargo pants first...that's less expensive than buying new brown engineer boots.

Thanks for the well wishes on the toes, they're good to go...thankfully.

Dm101 · Feb 19, 2019

BobHufford said:
^^^^^ Andy Griffith Syndrome...

I will have to look that one up.
I've never seen an episode of that...show? (I think it's a show....right?)

Dm101 · Feb 19, 2019

Hmmm...I think I may try an experiment with these boots.
If I can find the leather, I will use my speedy stitcher to stitch in a stiff leather extension to the tops of these boots. The challenge will be finding a sheet of leather large enough for cheap enough to make this experiment worthwhile....Maybe something in Goodwill...

https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/...-way-to-extend-tall-boots-to-make-them-taller

According to this, sometimes cobblers can do this, I'll be sure to ask my guy if he can do this if I get the leather when I go to the mall later today!!

BobHufford · Feb 19, 2019

Dm101 said:
I will have to look that one up.
I've never seen an episode of that...show? (I think it's a show....right?)

Yup.

Dm101 · Feb 21, 2019

Well, I went to the cobbler and proposed my idea to him for extending the short boots. He came back with a price of $90 dollars and a 3-week wait.
For a pair of boots that cost me 11 dollars...That ain't gonna work.
And as a matter of fact, I don't feel like dealing with the issue at all...on any boots.
Soooo....I'm selling the Frye 7" Phillip back-zip boots on ebay and using the proceeds to get a pair of proper height engineer boots or cowboy boots...undecided as of yet. Yeah, italian leather is nice...but I'd rather have perfect comfort.
Finding reasonably priced and well fitting Engineer boots is like finding a bloody mate.
There's way more cowboy boots available and if I need a strap that badly, I can just add one.

regius · Feb 22, 2019

Try the Work America brand, in the $200-300 range, or even less, they have the reputation of a universal good fit

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Dm101 · Mar 2, 2019

Welp....Trying to stitch leather onto my short-height CAT engineer boots was a fail. Couldn't find good leather to use for a good price, everything at goodwill was fake pleather backed with poly-fiber, and getting the cobbler to do it was prohibitively expensive.
So...I went back to shopping on Ebay.
The Ebay Frye boots were a huge FAIL. They came in today and they're going back out tomorrow.
They were Frye Harness boots in size 9 but fit like a size 8.
Requested a return and gave ebay the finger...I won't be going back for boots.
The mini-boots in question...

Comparison of my size-9 CAT Engineers and the Frye boots...(and my foot)

It'll never fit...

Sooo...
I went to amazon and ordered a brand new pair of Ariat "Stonewall" boots in Fiddler Brown, Size 9.
They arrive next week...tired of playing around with auctions and peoples false advertising.

Dm101 · Mar 7, 2019

The "Ariat - stonewall west" boots finally have arrived.
They're perfect! Comfortable, the color is perfect mocha brown, the soles are quiet rubber and shock absorbing, there's room in the toe and no tightness, they don't slip when I walk and the leather smells heavenly! Between my new brown leather gloves and these boots, I smell like a heavenly leather shop when I walk.

These were worth the wait.
Though I must admit I should have listened to the wife...again. She told me to just get what I liked...but no, I had to be a skinflint and try to find a perfect used pair.
*smack forehead*
Now after suffering for weeks, I finally decided to listen.
They say a hard head makes a sore...lol.

Now to figure out of I'm going to wear them to my rifle instructor training this weekend...

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karlito · Mar 10, 2019

I know exactly what you mean. I've tried to save some money by buying online (new and used) and now have 4 pairs that are ok to poor fit. I should have just bought new locally.

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TiltRotorFlyer · Mar 10, 2019

I just sold a pair of Lofgrens. I had a discussion about size with the buyer. The Lofgren Engineers are true to size. If you're a 9.5 on the Brannock device, you're a 9.5 in his boots. Pretty simple and you can even email back and forth with him. Great guy and he'll answer every question you can muster up!

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