Dating Vintage Stetsons by Liner: A Field Guide

alanfgag · Aug 26, 2019

J Williams said:
I know I saw it on here somewhere but I can’t find it. Trying to date this OR I recently acquired and can’t find information on the ‘beaver with sign’ logo.

The last drop liner is embroidered and has the onion skin protector long oval keyhole tag has the integer.

When did they start using the beaver plaque?...

The 3X mark goes back a long ways though like other trademarks with a long history (No.1 Quality, for instance) it has changed some over the years. The era of your hat is described above. This hat was owned by Justin Seagraves. It dates from the 1930s or earlier.

BobHufford · Apr 30, 2020

Wasn't sure where to drop this. Just more evidence linking the square tag with the embroidered Last Drop liner to show it went into the 1960s.

M Hatman · Apr 30, 2020

BobHufford said:
Wasn't sure where to drop this. Just more evidence linking the square tag with the embroidered Last Drop liner to show it went into the 1960s.

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That is provided someone did not "upgrade" the liner. I have seen some on the bay that were obviously later hats with an earlier liner put in "aftermarket".....(they had tags from the later 80's, those with inch and metric sizing and the sellers were saying the hats were from the 50's!!!!!!!). So buyer beware......

BobHufford · Apr 30, 2020

^^^^^ This was a Goodwill auction so those types of shenanigans probably didn't apply.

Just Daniel · Apr 30, 2020

Yes, I concur. I have seen two or three that way recently.

BobHufford said:
Wasn't sure where to drop this. Just more evidence linking the square tag with the embroidered Last Drop liner to show it went into the 1960s.

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deadlyhandsome · Jun 24, 2020

We have red liners elsewhere in this thread, but I’ve never seen one quite like this.

What do you think? ...late ‘50s to mid ‘60s?

Raazor123 · Mar 9, 2021

Can anyone give me some info on this label?

Just Daniel · Mar 9, 2021

The black sweatband with that crest is usually a post-60s hat. The Royal Quality Stetsons were their low end production.

For general reference, for some decades the Royal cost $10, Royal Deluxe $12.95, and 3X $15.

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TwentyFiveAlpha · Mar 11, 2021

I found this hat at a thrift store. I'm thinking it might be from the 1970s, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have an idea?

Just Daniel · Mar 11, 2021

Pretty cool. It could definitely be 70s, I have not come across much knowledge on that era/model so far on this site.

TwentyFiveAlpha said:
I found this hat at a thrift store. I'm thinking it might be from the 1970s, but I'm not sure. Does anyone have an idea?

Jazzsaxy123 · Jul 9, 2021

What about this one? I’m guessing very late 1950s or very early 1960s. I’m not sure if this does play a factor in determining age but it does have a wind chord

Just Daniel · Jul 9, 2021

Yes, I think you are correct. The brown sweatband is generally pre-60s; the plastic liner cover and that liner crest generally mid 50s+.

Jazzsaxy123 said:
What about this one? I’m guessing very late 1950s or very early 1960s. I’m not sure if this does play a factor in determining age but it does have a wind chord

Edward Reed · Sep 3, 2021

I'm curious about this Playboy. No liner but stamped on the felt itself. I have heard of some Stetson fedoras being sold without liners as warm weather versions?

Frunobulax · Sep 3, 2021

Edward Reed said:
I'm curious about this Playboy. No liner but stamped on the felt itself. I have heard of some Stetson fedoras being sold without liners as warm weather versions?
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I have one almost exactly like it. I put it square in the 50s.

Edward Reed · Sep 3, 2021

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Frunobulax said:
I have one almost exactly like it. I put it square in the 50s.

Cool! Thanks!

deadlyhandsome · Nov 5, 2021

This is a new one to me. The black rectangular size tag puts it mid 1960s to roughly 1980 I’m thinking. The Golden Ivy League by Stetson:

Not my hat so much don’t have a lot more to offer.

BobHufford · Nov 5, 2021

^^^^^ I think that's "Ivy League" Brent / @deadlyhandsome . I wouldn't recommend Googling "Golden Joy League" though.

deadlyhandsome · Nov 5, 2021

BobHufford said:
^^^^^ I think that's "Ivy League" Brent / @deadlyhandsome . I wouldn't recommend Googling "Golden Joy League" though.

Thanks, Bob. You always give the best advice.

I need glasses, but my vanity keeps me from getting them. I use reading glasses as I couldn’t do my job otherwise, but I’ve put off getting regular eyeglasses. The day is coming as these kinds of mistakes are becoming frequent. I find myself recognizing the shape of a word rather than seeing the letters.

AbbaDatDeHat · Nov 6, 2021

deadlyhandsome said:
Thanks, Bob. You always give the best advice.

I need glasses, but my vanity keeps me from getting them. I use reading glasses as I couldn’t do my job otherwise, but I’ve put off getting regular eyeglasses. The day is coming as these kinds of mistakes are becoming frequent. I find myself recognizing the shape of a word rather than seeing the letters.

Hold out for about 20 more years and go for the Deluxe Super Combo...glasses, couple hearing aids and a fine set of dentures.
No hurry!
B

DaveProc · Nov 17, 2021

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