What will black leather look like when distressed and worn in?

regius · Jan 9, 2020

Also, this jacket somehow suspends in mid air....but that's just photoshopping.

I also need to add another cause of fading, also chemical in a sense, that is sun fading. Some dye in the color would fade with sun, even my russet roughout campus jacket got faded after sitting in the sun...

ton312 · Jan 9, 2020

regius said:
Also, this jacket somehow suspends in mid air....but that's just photoshopping.

I also need to add another cause of fading, also chemical in a sense, that is sun fading. Some dye in the color would fade with sun, even my russet roughout campus jacket got faded after sitting in the sun...

That's not photoshop, the force is strong with that one. LOL...you gonna buy it? I think it's actually pretty damn cool. Good collar.

tmitchell59 · Jan 9, 2020

regius said:
Found this thread, and this perfect example on ebay, but I do have questions. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-s-195...047824?hash=item23ccfde990:g:UPcAAOSwNHZd9mz~

There is nothing artificial about that jacket finish. You will see other brown finished jackets loose their finish like this one. I don't see black finish jackets do this fade with such uniformity.

This one is getting there, brown with finish loss.

Seb Lucas · Jan 10, 2020

58panheadfan said:
Based on the photos, this jacket looks to me as artificially aged ... on the detail image, unusual wear and tear can be seen, as if it would have resulted from "natural" wear.

Edit: It looks like the whole surface has been processed non-naturally...

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I've seen jackets wear like that naturally.

Blackadder · Jan 10, 2020

The other day, I was talking to my friend who has a leather and silver workshop. I asked him two questions. One of the questions and its answer was posted in another thread. The other question is how if the majority of the hide since the 40s is chrome tanned can all those jackets from the 50s onwards develop a teacore. I was particularly intrigued by the batches of 80s teacore Red Wing 2268 PT83 since Red Wing would highly unlikely order veg tanned leather for their safety boots in the 80s given the costs (it is very different these days since the 2268 is now in the premium heritage line). Without a specific item on hand, he speculated in general that
1) many tanneries may have used a combination tanning process but not necessarily as long and troublesome as Horween's CXL process.
2) tanneries may pre-dye a lot of their chrome tanned leather brown and stock them waiting for customers to place an order. Pre-dyed brown is more versatile than the raw blueish grey given that it can be a finished or half finished product depending on the final order and the likelihood that the customers probably need more than one coat of paint. So when the top coat of say black disappears, the brown dye underneath will come next and not the core blueish grey.

sweetfights · Jan 11, 2020

This is my Langlitz- I am not the original owner. It has been dated by Langlitz to be from the 50's or 60's.
It was originally black just like Ralph Lauren's.

AbbaDatDeHat · Jan 11, 2020

sweetfights said:
This is my Langlitz- I am not the original owner. It has been dated by Langlitz to be from the 50's or 60's.
It was originally black just like Ralph Lauren's.

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Total grail jacket at several levels Sweets. If ever, ever, it should need another steward, i’d be proud to caretake it then bequeath it to my Son.
Epic jacket!
B

Jrolfe · Jan 11, 2020

sweetfights said:
This is my Langlitz- I am not the original owner. It has been dated by Langlitz to be from the 50's or 60's.
It was originally black just like Ralph Lauren's.

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I had no idea that they were doing quilting like that all the way back in the 50s. Blows my mind. Jacket is stellar!!

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tmitchell59 · Jan 11, 2020

This is a 50s Ralphs-Pugh Steerhide jacket. I see more dramatic wear through in the steerhide vintage jackets. I've got older black jackets that have no wear through.

Lot of different quality of leather in vintage jackets. Some wear seems to come through use others just a poor manufacturing process.

I don't think vintage jacket makers were wanting wear through to wear through too soon!

Police jackets like this were probably retired for such wear through.

handymike · Jan 11, 2020

Ralphs-Pugh is my favorite maker at the moment!
Beautiful jacket Terry!

sweetfights · Jan 11, 2020

AbbaDatDeHat said:
Total grail jacket at several levels Sweets. If ever, ever, it should need another steward, i’d be proud to caretake it then bequeath it to my Son.
Epic jacket!
B

Thank you- it is definitely a grail jacket.
You can see the sun fading on the upper back compared to the rest of the jacket.

navetsea · Jan 11, 2020

hmm chrome tan finally developing brown hue too after half century, this is what teacore leather trying to mimic I suppose, but I wonder how quick fade teacore would look the next half century, I remember A-1's black jacket turned fully brown since he wore it often.

navetsea · Jan 11, 2020

regius said:
and this one, classic, Ralph Lauren wearing his favourite Langlitz, completely faded to beige. Together with the ebay jacket, my question is, HOW?? if not by artificial aging? (I've seen one or two faded langlitz in their store, but the rest old ones are still black) The disappearing of the black top coating is either due to chemical peeling or abrasion, no other way. Unless the jacket was dipped into chemicals, the person got sprayed by chemicals, or the person rolls on the ground a few times in a precise manner, I can't see how the non-contact surfaces also becomes faded. Arms, shoulders, elbow, upper back, sure, but the two front panels and the whole jacket so evenly faded???
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/...rtnership-Royal-Marsden-Hospital-Chelsea.html

I do believe the jacket naturally fade/ sueding, but I don't believe Ralph Lauren himself do that through his daily wear, probably need years of riding in the sun through the dessert to get sun exposure and blasted by sandy wind to that that result I guess

Seb Lucas · Jan 11, 2020

navetsea said:
I do believe the jacket naturally fade/ sueding, but I don't believe Ralph Lauren himself do that through his daily wear, probably need years of riding in the sun through the dessert to get sun exposure and blasted by sandy wind to that that result I guess

Ralph Lauren himself looks pretty faced and sueded from years of wear, it seems to me.

tropicalbob · Jan 12, 2020

handymike said:
This black jacket is from the 1940s...and worn, not "Hollywood distressed".
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Is that goat? Any chance of more pics? That lining looks really nice.

Peter Bowden · Jan 12, 2020

This leather displayed a "tea core" effect after only a few weeks.Oddly enough it had the most potent new leather aroma of any of the jackets I have owned.

Downunder G Man · Jan 12, 2020

First photo is my 1990 Eastman Luftwaffe. Well worn , relined in black , re-dyed also. Brown showing thru' !
Second is my 5 year old version of the same jacket.MUCH less wear but 100% the same jacket

AeroFan_07 · Jan 13, 2020

Guide Master Wolf - early '50's - long since sold off

regius · Jan 15, 2020

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/264591799041

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regius · Jan 15, 2020

Peter Bowden said:
This leather displayed a "tea core" effect after only a few weeks.Oddly enough it had the most potent new leather aroma of any of the jackets I have owned.

Nice Route 66, rarely seen one. Is this Horween’s chromexcel?

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