Lost Worlds G-1 Review/experience

Colin G said:

This thread is about the Lost Worlds G-1 not an exact replica.

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HPA Rep said:

The subject says it is a review, so is not authenticity part of that which should be discussed about a brand touted by the brand owner on his website as the best? Such posts have already been made vis-a-vis exacting detail by no less than a few members in this post, so is there a particular reason why such attendant observations and commentary by me are singled out?

And in your statement, you are indeed acknowledging this specific shortcoming of a Lost Worlds G-1: "This thread is about the Lost Worlds G-1 not an exact replica." Seems a very appropriate conversation to me, but maybe the messenger is not favored, eh?

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Colin G said:

HPA, I have no problem with your reviews about your products and find them quite informative. I read your posts about the Buzz Rickson G-1 since that is on my radar also. I will check one out in Japan when I go in a few weeks and if I like it, maybe I'll buy it. But that is for another thread, not this one.

I also never mentioned you touting this and that about originality of your products since I don't really care. I care about learning about the LW G-1, which is what this thread is about.

I said what I said and that is all I am going to type on the matter since I don't want to detract from this thread. I am not taking the bait. Sorry.

I'll revert to keeping this on track. The LW G-1 sure is a beauty.

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dopey said:

To be honest, I am kind of annoyed LW won't custom adjust one for you. I love mine and wanted you to get one, too. It is awesome. Also, in the back of my mind I could imagine getting another myself at some point. Literally, every other jacket I have gets taken by one of my daughters so I can always get another but there is no point for me if I couldn't make that change.

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thor said:

Not to make this a LW versus Eastman debate (we all have our preferences for our own reasons), I think folks value and prefer certain characteristics of a leather jacket (or of a leather jacket company/business) in ways which appeal to us.
Some prioritize accuracy of materials over all else. Some others want heavy, thick leather and robust zippers because it just “feels” better for daily (rough) usage. And some prefer a mid-price option because cost is a concern. Some like to customize their jacket based on their own needs (extra pockets, shorter or taller size, etc) while others want an exact representation of a military-issued garment. An Eastman is probably the most accurate, yet a LW might overbuild their jacket and the heavy-duty materials may feel more appealing but then a Goodwear might offer near-unlimited customization and that might be the deciding factor in why I like one jacket over another. I have owned all of these (and so many others). I have 30 G-1/M-422’s in my collection, including several originals. I love the G-1 design and will probably keep adding to my collection because my tastes and preferences change.

I’m glad I found a forum where we can all discuss our ideas and experiences and share our knowledge and our opinions.

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red devil said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but if I were to recap your message in a few sentences, it would look like this:

- You concur with @Boyo that the ELC jacket is much better
- Nothing is as authentic as ELC or Buzz Rickson in terms of the G1
- LW jackets are built like tanks
- This robust construction is useless because that type of jacket doesn't need it and in any case how far is it going to protect you from heavy impacts?

Did I get your message correctly?

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HPA Rep said:

Close, but not exactly. Please note:

- Nothing is as authentic as ELC or Buzz Rickson, in terms of the G-1, but even these have their downsides - no one produces a perfect copy because that is just no longer possible.

- The LW jackets I have seen and handled are built like tanks (figuratively, speaking). They are made from heavy leather that appears to stay new looking and will not age or develop attractive wear as seen on vintage counterparts because of the dye process employed.

- A probative question should be raised about the actual value of any leather jacket favored for its heavy leather over a lighter leather of equal or greater quality simply because it is often perceived that the heavier jacket will hold up longer or protect better in demanding, rigorous activities, such as motorcycling. As one who used to ride and had only one mild accident, freedom of movement was my may concern, in addition to comfort and adequate protection, but not overkill or superfluous protection. Flying jackets are something else, and these were not made from thick leather for the very reasons of comfort and mobility.

It its my personal opinion based on my understanding of both leather and high-speed crashes in vehicles and on bikes that leather thickness and weight will have very negligible impact in protecting the wearer, far more negligible than what nomex provides to those who wear this for the 10 seconds it keeps them from becoming human incendiaries. I believe anyone sliding down the highway at 35 MPH or more or ejected from a vehicle will have potential injuries of such seriousness that any leather of any thickness will be of absolute no benefit. In terms of overall leather longevity for the typical day-to-day activity the vast majority of us engage in, there will be no appreciable benefit from buying a heavier leather or, say, horse hide over goatskin.

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HPA Rep said:

Close, but not exactly. Please note:

- Nothing is as authentic as ELC or Buzz Rickson, in terms of the G-1, but even these have their downsides - no one produces a perfect copy because that is just no longer possible.

- The LW jackets I have seen and handled are built like tanks (figuratively, speaking). They are made from heavy leather that appears to stay new looking and will not age or develop attractive wear as seen on vintage counterparts because of the dye process employed.

- A probative question should be raised about the actual value of any leather jacket favored for its heavy leather over a lighter leather of equal or greater quality simply because it is often perceived that the heavier jacket will hold up longer or protect better in demanding, rigorous activities, such as motorcycling. As one who used to ride and had only one mild accident, freedom of movement was my may concern, in addition to comfort and adequate protection, but not overkill or superfluous protection. Flying jackets are something else, and these were not made from thick leather for the very reasons of comfort and mobility.

It its my personal opinion based on my understanding of both leather and high-speed crashes in vehicles and on bikes that leather thickness and weight will have very negligible impact in protecting the wearer, far more negligible than what nomex provides to those who wear this for the 10 seconds it keeps them from becoming human incendiaries. I believe anyone sliding down the highway at 35 MPH or more or ejected from a vehicle will have potential injuries of such seriousness that any leather of any thickness will be of absolute no benefit. In terms of overall leather longevity for the typical day-to-day activity the vast majority of us engage in, there will be no appreciable benefit from buying a heavier leather or, say, horse hide over goatskin.

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Seb Lucas said:

Bound to be controversial comments. I agree with the thoughts on thicker leather. Not much point. But people here love it and that's ok too. Is it any better? Only if it's to your taste, it would seem to me. I can't imagine how ultra thick leather would be relevant for a G1 or an A2 for that matter.

Charles what did you mean by exact copies no longer being possible? Do you mean materials no longer available? The exact copy thing is not really my bag - I lack the subtlety to appreciate it or even care all that much, but it fascinates me as an intellectual exercise and I enjoy reading about it.

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