German & Austrian Hutmachers

mayserwegener · Mar 16, 2020

Halban & Damask Velour, 58 cm possibly 1920s. This is the first soft felt Halban & Damask Wien soft felt I have encountered and it was an export to Norway. This rare find was made back in 2012 by FL member Qirrel. I would like to thank Garrett for letting me know that it had come up for auction on Ebay.

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Daniele Tanto · Mar 16, 2020

mayserwegener said:
Halban & Damask Velour, 58 cm possibly 1920s. This is the first soft felt Halban & Damask Wien soft felt I have encountered and it was an export to Norway. This rare find was made back in 2012 by FL member Qirrel. I would like to thank Garrett for letting me know that it had come up for auction on Ebay.

Un'altro pezzo da novanta. Fantastic velour and bow!

mayserwegener · Mar 17, 2020

Daniele Tanto said:
Un'altro pezzo da novanta. Fantastic velour and bow!

Daniele, Thank you! It's in fairly good shape considering the age and amount of wear. Hopefully I can take some photos wearing this week. I have been looking for a Halban & Damask Soft Felt for a long time.

Garrett · Mar 17, 2020

Fantastic, Steve! And it cleaned up nicely from the auction photos - looking forward to the outdoor shots.

mayserwegener · Mar 17, 2020

Garrett said:
Fantastic, Steve! And it cleaned up nicely from the auction photos - looking forward to the outdoor shots.

Garrett, Thank you so much for tip! I have come across Halban & Damask Wien Stiff Felts and Top Hats (small sizes or damaged) but never a Soft Felt. Here are some out door photos.

M Hatman · Mar 19, 2020

Austrian large format Poster Stamp.......1920's or so.

M Hatman · Mar 19, 2020

Sorry to post this here....but I thought thought those here may know...is this Swedish? Also is it for a manufacturer, shop or import ad?????

Mean Eyed Matt · Mar 19, 2020

"Herrekipering" means "(Men's) outfitter"
So this should be a shop in Göteborg/Sweden,
which advertises with the "Prince of Wales"
- although I am not sure if the shop was really the official outfitter.

steur · Mar 19, 2020

mayserwegener said:
Halban & Damask Velour, 58 cm possibly 1920s. This is the first soft felt Halban & Damask Wien soft felt I have encountered and it was an export to Norway. This rare find was made back in 2012 by FL member Qirrel. I would like to thank Garrett for letting me know that it had come up for auction on Ebay.

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Very beautiful, Steve. That ribbon is spectacular!

Steve1857 · Mar 19, 2020

Nice find, Mark.

It definitely refers to a Swedish gentleman's store in Gothenborg, Sweden.

The Prince of Wales is the heir apparent in Great Britain, and often deemed as the archetypal playboy. I think that's what the store was going for back then.

Edward the 7th was the Prince of Wales before he became king who brought the "Homburg" into style back in the late 1800's and early 1900's.

The stamp is obviously late 1920s/early 1930s due to its art deco style, so the Prince of Wales then was the future Edward the 8th who insisted on marrying the divorced American, Wallace Simpson, and therefore was forced to abdicate.

The stamp seems to suggest that they have Bowlers at three different price ranges.

Hope that helps in some way.

Thanks for sharing btw and stay safe.

M Hatman said:
Sorry to post this here....but I thought thought those here may know...is this Swedish? Also is it for a manufacturer, shop or import ad?????

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Mean Eyed Matt · Mar 19, 2020

M Hatman said:
Austrian large format Poster Stamp.......1920's or so.

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The typeface is strongly oriented towards Art Nouveau;
plus the k.&k. Eagle on the left:
I would think the stamp is more likely from around 1910

mayserwegener · Mar 21, 2020

steur said:
Very beautiful, Steve. That ribbon is spectacular!

Stefan, Thank you!

Garrett · Mar 23, 2020

This fantastic Mayser velour has potential and was worth the financial risk at $29. I'm sure Bob at BSHW will work his magic and restore to former glory.

M Hatman · Mar 23, 2020

Steve1857 said:
Nice find, Mark.

It definitely refers to a Swedish gentleman's store in Gothenborg, Sweden.

The Prince of Wales is the heir apparent in Great Britain, and often deemed as the archetypal playboy. I think that's what the store was going for back then.

Edward the 7th was the Prince of Wales before he became king who brought the "Homburg" into style back in the late 1800's and early 1900's.

The stamp is obviously late 1920s/early 1930s due to its art deco style, so the Prince of Wales then was the future Edward the 8th who insisted on marrying the divorced American, Wallace Simpson, and therefore was forced to abdicate.

The stamp seems to suggest that they have Bowlers at three different price ranges.

Hope that helps in some way.

Thanks for sharing btw and stay safe.

Just realised I had not answered.....yes, it does help....and Thank You!
You be well too!
Best,
M

mayserwegener · Mar 24, 2020

Garrett said:
This fantastic Mayser velour has potential and was worth the financial risk at $29. I'm sure Bob at BSHW will work his magic and restore to former glory.

Garrett, It looks like a great Velour. I am looking forward to Bob's always great transformations / creations!

steur · Mar 24, 2020

Garrett said:
This fantastic Mayser velour has potential and was worth the financial risk at $29. I'm sure Bob at BSHW will work his magic and restore to former glory.

Worth the gamble, Garrett. I'm sure there's a fantastic hat hiding in there and Bob will find it and bring it to light.

mayserwegener · Mar 24, 2020

Mean Eyed Matt said:
The typeface is strongly oriented towards Art Nouveau;
plus the k.&k. Eagle on the left:
I would think the stamp is more likely from around 1910

Matt, I agree. As far as I know Garrett has the only Velour-Hutfabrik Carl Blum Hat. There is no mention of Velour-Hutfabrik Carl Blum but at the time I was able to determine the make by the crest (not double eagle). You can see the hat at the link below.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/126-velour-hutfabrik-carl-blum-wels-austria/

Mean Eyed Matt · Mar 24, 2020

Great hat and interesting coat of arms:

The eagle for the American market (both in Garret's hat and in the ad for "L. Werner & Co.") has 2 heads, but it is not the Austrian double eagle as in the other ads. Instead, the wings are more like those of the American eagle; furthermore, the eagle itself does not have a crown: an adaptation to the "republican" Americans compared to the "monarchist" Austrians!?
Or is this something temporal?

The coat of arms in the "European version" is Upper Austria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Austria
In the "American" version the shield is also completely different: I do not know what this shield means...
It's divided into three parts:
central Austria (red-white-red) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria
on the left the Salzburg Lion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salzburg_(state)
on the right ???

mayserwegener said:
Matt, I agree. As far as I know Garrett has the only Velour-Hutfabrik Carl Blum Hat. There is no mention of Velour-Hutfabrik Carl Blum but at the time I was able to determine the make by the crest (not double eagle). You can see the hat at the link below.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/126-velour-hutfabrik-carl-blum-wels-austria/

mayserwegener · Mar 24, 2020

Mean Eyed Matt said:
Great hat and interesting coat of arms:

The eagle for the American market (both in Garret's hat and in the ad for "L. Werner & Co.") has 2 heads, but it is not the Austrian double eagle as in the other ads. Instead, the wings are more like those of the American eagle; furthermore, the eagle itself does not have a crown: an adaptation to the "republican" Americans compared to the "monarchist" Austrians!?
Or is this something temporal?

The coat of arms in the "European version" is Upper Austria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Austria
In the "American" version the shield is also completely different: I do not know what this shield means...
It's divided into three parts:
central Austria (red-white-red) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria
on the left the Salzburg Lion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salzburg_(state)
on the right ???

Matt, Yes you are correct. I forgot is was an American market. It's possible they still used the double eagle on Austrian/ German market hats post WWI. I believe The American Hatter L. Werner ads are pre WWI.

Here is a P. & C. Habig Wien Berlin with Single Headed Eagle with Hammer and Sickle.

Here is the entire hat.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/5-p-c-habig-hutfabrik/?do=findComment&comment=653

Mean Eyed Matt · Mar 24, 2020

The eagle with only one head and hammer and sickle is the coat of arms of the Republic of Austria as it is still in use today. The origin (and therefore the dating of your hat) is in the 1st Republic of Austria 1919-1934.
Afterwards the coat of arms changes again under the government of Dollfuß (Federal State of Austria):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Austria

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