Pre 1940s (non-Stetson) Westerns

Bamaboots · Oct 31, 2018

Hurricane Jack said:
1940's Carlsbad

Such a badass hat!

Hurricane Jack · Oct 31, 2018

Bamaboots said:
Such a badass hat!

Thanks BB. It's so soft it's hard to hold a crease when wearing it.

Bamaboots · Oct 31, 2018

Hurricane Jack said:
Thanks BB. It's so soft it's hard to hold a crease when wearing it.

Wow! I've never applied stiffener to a hat that old.

Hurricane Jack · Oct 31, 2018

Bamaboots said:
Wow! I've never applied stiffener to a hat that old.

Not wanting to add any to this one either.

jlee562 · Dec 8, 2019

The Superior Hat for Bush Hat co. Dakota model.

Interesting hat. What seems like the price tag is very faded but I believe it says 2.50. Tagged size 7 but as you can see, it's pretty small. The leather is still pliable and doesn't appear to have shrunk, but seems a bit less substantial than the early Stetsons I've handled. Felt is moldable, but certainly more coarse in finish than any of my pre-war hats. 5 1/2" open crown, 3 1/4" brim.

WDurableGoods · Apr 8, 2020

Got this in from the bay, couldn’t resist , I’ve seen a few Montgomery wards hats that were very good, this one feels almost as good as my real nutria Stetson, 2” sweat has fallen out completely but I think I’ll get restored and wearable. 3 7/8” brim and 6 1/2” crown, says “San Frall quality” thought that was weird but it matches description of the Stetson San All from the 1930s wish I could find in old caTalog, love the liner .

rclark · Apr 8, 2020

WDurableGoods said:
Got this in from the bay, couldn’t resist , I’ve seen a few Montgomery wards hats that were very good, this one feels almost as good as my real nutria Stetson, 2” sweat has fallen out completely but I think I’ll get restored and wearable. 3 7/8” brim and 6 1/2” crown, says “San Frall quality” thought that was weird but it matches description of the Stetson San All from the 1930s wish I could find in old caTalog, love the liner .

Incredible hat!

AbbaDatDeHat · Apr 8, 2020

WDurableGoods said:
Got this in from the bay, couldn’t resist , I’ve seen a few Montgomery wards hats that were very good, this one feels almost as good as my real nutria Stetson, 2” sweat has fallen out completely but I think I’ll get restored and wearable. 3 7/8” brim and 6 1/2” crown, says “San Frall quality” thought that was weird but it matches description of the Stetson San All from the 1930s wish I could find in old caTalog, love the liner .

Very cool hat. Love the liner. Quite a nice Western to be sure.
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Garrett · Apr 9, 2020

jlee562 said:
The Superior Hat for Bush Hat co. Dakota model.

Interesting hat. What seems like the price tag is very faded but I believe it says 2.50. Tagged size 7 but as you can see, it's pretty small. The leather is still pliable and doesn't appear to have shrunk, but seems a bit less substantial than the early Stetsons I've handled. Felt is moldable, but certainly more coarse in finish than any of my pre-war hats. 5 1/2" open crown, 3 1/4" brim.

Wow it looks to have shrunk down to a 6 3/4 based on that photo of you wearing it. Are you attempting to stretch it back to size?

jlee562 · Apr 9, 2020

Garrett said:
Wow it looks to have shrunk down to a 6 3/4 based on that photo of you wearing it. Are you attempting to stretch it back to size?

No, that one is in the metaphorical for sale column of things I need to post for sale.

Jesse John · Oct 16, 2021

Here’s a fixer upper I gave some TLC from eBay. No stickers indicating who made it. Still, couldn’t resist! The seller told me he bought it 30-40 years ago from a dealer in Santa Monica who was selling old wild west antiques. The seller claimed it had been originally sourced from an MGM studio auction. So, although I do not know who made it, I wonder if it ever had any screen time. The felt is on the stiffer side, comparable to the early No. 1 quality Stetson hats. The ribbon was originally black but has since faded to a beautiful worn copper. I did some minor hole patch work as well as installed a new sweatband and liner.

RossRYoung · Oct 16, 2021

A beautiful old western! What are the dims? Looks like maybe a 4” brim and 6 1/3 crown? It’s awesome

Jesse John · Oct 16, 2021

Ross Young said:
A beautiful old western! What are the dims? Looks like maybe a 4” brim and 6 1/3 crown? It’s awesome

Thanks Ross! You have a good eye for dimensions. 4” brim and a 5 1/2” crown with it creased. Can’t remember what it was when I opened the crown on the block.

On a side note I’ve attached the eBay pic as well as the open crown after I blocked it. Just for more context

thanks again my friend

BobHufford · Oct 16, 2021

Shreveport Hat Company. No longer mine and I thought I’d better archive it. Not sure on the age, but it checks a few boxes.

Hurricane Jack · Oct 16, 2021

Jesse John said:
Here’s a fixer upper I gave some TLC from eBay. No stickers indicating who made it. Still, couldn’t resist! The seller told me he bought it 30-40 years ago from a dealer in Santa Monica who was selling old wild west antiques. The seller claimed it had been originally sourced from an MGM studio auction. So, although I do not know who made it, I wonder if it ever had any screen time. The felt is on the stiffer side, comparable to the early No. 1 quality Stetson hats. The ribbon was originally black but has since faded to a beautiful worn copper. I did some minor hole patch work as well as installed a new sweatband and liner. View attachment 369952 View attachment 369956 View attachment 369957 View attachment 369954

Great one Jesse. Glad it came to you!

M Hatman · Jul 6, 2022

A recent find that will be "on display" for quite a while. A "custom" made for Mell's Hat Shop in Chicago (not to be confused with Mell's Diner

).

5 1/2 in crown, 2 3/4 in bound brim, 3/4" frayed mid-ribbon.

1 7/8" tape seam unreeded textured sweat inside marked by the company and "Leather Warranted" plus something else. Hard to read or photograph...leather is really nice and soft.....

Felt has a sort of short hair finish hard to photograph. Felt is really, really thin and soft, with a really nice hand. Sure wish it was my size.......then I could wear it once in a while........

drmaxtejeda · Jul 7, 2022

M Hatman said:
A recent find that will be "on display" for quite a while. A "custom" made for Mell's Hat Shop in Chicago (not to be confused with Mell's Diner).

5 1/2 in crown, 2 3/4 in bound brim, 3/4" frayed mid-ribbon.

1 7/8" tape seam unreeded textured sweat inside marked by the company and "Leather Warranted" plus something else. Hard to read or photograph...leather is really nice and soft.....

Felt has a sort of short hair finish hard to photograph. Felt is really, really thin and soft, with a really nice hand. Sure wish it was my size.......then I could wear it once in a while........
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drmaxtejeda · Jul 7, 2022

M Hatman said:
A recent find that will be "on display" for quite a while. A "custom" made for Mell's Hat Shop in Chicago (not to be confused with Mell's Diner).

5 1/2 in crown, 2 3/4 in bound brim, 3/4" frayed mid-ribbon.

1 7/8" tape seam unreeded textured sweat inside marked by the company and "Leather Warranted" plus something else. Hard to read or photograph...leather is really nice and soft.....

Felt has a sort of short hair finish hard to photograph. Felt is really, really thin and soft, with a really nice hand. Sure wish it was my size.......then I could wear it once in a while........
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I hadn't thought of that show in many years, Alice!

buler · Jan 25, 2023

Thought I'd ad my "The Arrow Hat" before it's sold.

BobHufford · Jan 25, 2023

An old White & Davis western. 7" (maybe 7-1/2") crown, 5" bound brim.

Similar to the El Charro in this 1929 catalog?

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/white-davis-western-hats-1929.62461/

I didn't see any White & Davis hats with a 7" or 7-1/2" crown and a 5" brim in this 1923 catalog:

https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/white-davis-catalog-20-fall-winter-1922-1923-hats.108541/

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