Ship John Wills - Large

AeroFan_07 said:

Which is a nice textile (Cotton?) Jacket - for those who may not know what this brand/type is....

Welcome to FL in any case!

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Monitor said:

Oh dear God, this went for more than it costs brand new! Wait time or no, this is downright ridiculous! It's an okay looking canvas jacket but... It's literally Carhartt grade product! Which isn't bad but it's really nothing insanely special. I've never seen one going for over $300 elsewhere. Someone really doesn't care for their money much. I mean, congrats to the @PortlandSlough of course, good sale there but man...

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jimmer_5 said:

I mean no disrespect, but have you actually handled one of these before? I have, and it's far superior to any Carhartt I've ever owned, much nicer than LC King / Pointer. The material is far thicker, and the build quality is excellent. The price is on the high side for American made chore coats, but there are some companies that charge even more. It's not for everyone, but this is a top quality item, easily on par with Iron Heart. On top of that, the guys that run the shop are some of the nicest, most generous, down to earth people you could meet. They've done a lot for the community here in Oregon recently, and I consider them to be a company worth supporting.

I won't argue value or bang for buck - everyone's opinion is different, and I was even of the same mind at first (I can buy leather for that price). That being said, I will be ordering one when I can, and while the price is high, the jacket is as good as the hype suggests. To each his own.

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GW KY said:

I love those guys, wearing my guthrie jeans to death and the denim wills is the best denim jacket ever made for my money. I have no problem ever with what they charge,it's just a but crazy the secondary value. It's like what you see with secondary bourbon, not usually clothing.

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jimmer_5 said:

I mean no disrespect, but have you actually handled one of these before? I have, and it's far superior to any Carhartt I've ever owned, much nicer than LC King / Pointer. The material is far thicker, and the build quality is excellent. The price is on the high side for American made chore coats, but there are some companies that charge even more. It's not for everyone, but this is a top quality item, easily on par with Iron Heart. On top of that, the guys that run the shop are some of the nicest, most generous, down to earth people you could meet. They've done a lot for the community here in Oregon recently, and I consider them to be a company worth supporting.

I won't argue value or bang for buck - everyone's opinion is different, and I was even of the same mind at first (I can buy leather for that price). That being said, I will be ordering one when I can, and while the price is high, the jacket is as good as the hype suggests. To each his own.

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Monitor said:

Yeah, you're right. No, I haven't handled one so I am talking out of my ass but... The fact that someone paid more than what the new one'd cost them irks me. That's all.

I suppose the same could be said for Iron Heart and why'd anyone be willing to pay $450 for their Type 3 when you can get the Levi's original for half as much. No amount of explaining why IH's version is worth it would justify it.

Think with this jacket is... I'm sure it's a high quality piece but I just don't feel it's very spectacular looking. I mean, kinda like a straightforward choir coat, the 70's kind you can find all over eBay for much less. Not particularly fancy on details, just the most basic features, etc. That's why I'm comparing it to Carhartt. To me personally it just doesn't scream that it's freaking premium piece. If you didn't know what it is, not sure you'd bother even trying to find out. Just don't see why I'd want to pay more money than what it costs new but yeah, to each their own.

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jimmer_5 said:

Thanks for the reply, and I honestly understand your position. I felt the same way at first. I discovered Ship John's stuff about a year and a half ago at a local motorcycle show. I was super impressed with this jacket right away - the super thick fabric (literally twice what a Carhartt would be at 24 oz) and build quality were like nothing I'd ever handled. However, at the time I walked away without making a deposit - I just couldn't wrap my head around the leather jacket level price, in spite of the quality. A few months later after some thought I decided I'd get one, and the orders were closed.

I guess for me it comes down to the fact that I'm picky about fit, and I am impressed by quality and heavy weight materials. I'll get one, but I really like this style, and I've had plenty of time to think it over.

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jimmer_5 said:

I mean no disrespect, but have you actually handled one of these before? I have, and it's far superior to any Carhartt I've ever owned, much nicer than LC King / Pointer. The material is far thicker, and the build quality is excellent. The price is on the high side for American made chore coats, but there are some companies that charge even more. It's not for everyone, but this is a top quality item, easily on par with Iron Heart. On top of that, the guys that run the shop are some of the nicest, most generous, down to earth people you could meet. They've done a lot for the community here in Oregon recently, and I consider them to be a company worth supporting.

I won't argue value or bang for buck - everyone's opinion is different, and I was even of the same mind at first (I can buy leather for that price). That being said, I will be ordering one when I can, and while the price is high, the jacket is as good as the hype suggests. To each his own.

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