Stetson 4X Beaver Quality w/Hargens Box

rlk · Dec 10, 2009

Really seems unworn. This ain't no Open Road... Box is great too. Seems like a slightly finer finishing than the 3X--maybe a touch of Beaver in the blend. Kind of halfway between the 3X and 7X as one might expect. Felt weight is thicker than the 25 and a little less compacted(25 has almost no texture). Unusual tall center crease with side dents like a Diamond. Pretty firm stiffening though still soft and smooth. 5-1/2""crown height at peaks as creased. 2-7/8" polished raw edge brim. Thankfully, also a perfect snug fit as it has same oval as my Cranium.

rlk · Dec 10, 2009

Charles Hargens Box details

Charles Hargens Jr. link:http://www.dakotadiscovery.com/subcategory.cfm?cat_id=8&subcat_Id=21

carouselvic · Dec 10, 2009

Stetson also made the Hargens box as a regular hat box without a hinged lid or handles and a plain cardboard interior. Mine is in pieces. Nice hat.

jimmy the lid · Dec 13, 2009

Fantastic, rlk. I think you've actually acquired a rather rare one there. Honestly, I don't think I recall ever seeing an actual vintage 4X before. In case it may help in terms of dating, here is a 1957 gift box that matches up with your box for the 4X:

Cheers,
JtL

Just Daniel · Jul 9, 2019

Plus one more to RLK and his great posts!

Here is a Last Drop 4X I picked up yesterday. The sweat came off, a minor repair for Ignacio on my next trip to Mexico City.

I can’t tell if that’s a stain or a moth bite in the top corner...

Just Daniel · May 25, 2020

Another 4X. This one fits into various threads, but I think RLK got it right in opening up one just for this Stetson line. The three box red inventory tag and square orange to duplicate likely indicates an early 30s hat. The back of the sweatband was sewn and the threads attaching the sweat to the reed are very fine and parallel.

A 6 inch crown and 4 inch brim, nearly Joao-worthy.

The sweatband is toast on this hat, but you can see from the pics this is a big boy!

Thanks to Bob for sending it my way; the sellers listed it as a 21 inch circumference but it turns out their measurement was a little bit off. If folks had known it was a 7 3/8 I doubt I would have won it!

jlee562 · May 25, 2020

Wow! Love the purple liner. I don't recall seeing one before.

BobHufford · May 25, 2020

^^^^^ Cool (and dare I say scarce) hat Daniel. I’m happy to see it in good hands.

deadlyhandsome · May 25, 2020

Just Daniel said:
Another 4X. This one fits into various threads, but I think RLK got it right in opening up one just for this Stetson line. The three box red inventory tag and square orange to duplicate likely indicates an early 30s hat. The back of the sweatband was sewn and the threads attaching the sweat to the reed are very fine and parallel.

A 6 inch crown and 4 inch brim, nearly Joao-worthy.

The sweatband is toast on this hat, but you can see from the pics this is a big boy!

Thanks to Bob for sending it my way; the sellers listed it as a 21 inch circumference but it turns out their measurement was a little bit off. If folks had known it was a 7 3/8 I doubt I would have won it!

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Great hat. Strange that we see more 7X hats than 4X.

Just Daniel · May 25, 2020

Here is a felt hand molding experiment, a later-50s 7X CB on the left and the 30s 4X on the right. I tried my best to mold them with the same effort.

The 7X CB feels a bit softer and maybe thinner than the 4X, but the 4X molds just a little finer.

carouselvic · May 27, 2020

"The three box red inventory tag and square orange to duplicate likely indicates an early 30s hat."

The three box tag went on to around the 1940+-mark.

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Just Daniel · May 27, 2020

Amazing hat! Wow.

carouselvic said:
"The three box red inventory tag and square orange to duplicate likely indicates an early 30s hat."

The three box tag went on to around the 1940+-mark.

combined sticker

TheGuitarFairy · May 27, 2020

these hats are beautiful, thanks for posting!

Rmccamey · May 28, 2020

What a super hat!

carouselvic said:
"The three box red inventory tag and square orange to duplicate likely indicates an early 30s hat."

The three box tag went on to around the 1940+-mark.

combined sticker

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