German & Austrian Hutmachers

Mean Eyed Matt · Nov 5, 2020

Steve, thank you for the addition:
as ever - a nice piece of hat history!

By the way, Paul Hausding is already registered as a furrier at this address in 1895:
https://adressbuecher.genealogy.net...25&sort=lastName&offset=100&order=asc&start=H

The history of the company:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Paul_Hausding,_Pirna,_Pelzconfection,_Herrenmoden.jpg

mayserwegener · Nov 10, 2020

Oberbayerische Hutfabrik gmbH. Miesbach "Edelweiss-Hut" "Chamois", 58 cm, 1955. The Chamois Felt is really fantastic (color, finish, hand) and easily dry creases. This is the first of a seven hat find.

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Scooterz · Nov 11, 2020

What a great looking hat!

mayserwegener said:
Oberbayerische Hutfabrik gmbH. Miesbach "Edelweiss-Hut" "Chamois", 58 cm, 1955. The Chamois Felt is really fantastic (color, finish, hand) and easily dry creases. This is the first of a seven hat find.

Open Crown

the_imperialist · Nov 11, 2020

Another great addition Steve! I love the simple twist that forms the 'bow' - pure elegance in its simplicity. Can't wait to see the rest of your find!

mayserwegener · Nov 11, 2020

the_imperialist said:
Another great addition Steve! I love the simple twist that forms the 'bow' - pure elegance in its simplicity. Can't wait to see the rest of your find!

Wayne, Thank you! They are later hats but still interesting. I added some photos of me wearing the hat.

mayserwegener · Nov 11, 2020

Scooterz said:
What a great looking hat!

Thank you!

the_imperialist · Nov 11, 2020

mayserwegener said:
Wayne, Thank you! They are later hats but still interesting. I added some photos of me wearing the hat.

Looks perfect on you! My ideal post war proportions

Mean Eyed Matt · Nov 11, 2020

Great hat, Steve: felt colour and trimming are a classic!
A question I have asked myself many times before:
Does "Chamois" actually correspond to what other manufacturers call "antelope"?

mayserwegener · Nov 11, 2020

Mean Eyed Matt said:
Great hat, Steve: felt colour and trimming are a classic!
A question I have asked myself many times before:
Does "Chamois" actually correspond to what other manufacturers call "antelope"?

Matt, Thanks! They are a similar process but Chamois tends to be a Finer Finish + Higher Quality Felt.

mayserwegener · Nov 12, 2020

the_imperialist said:
Looks perfect on you! My ideal post war proportions

Wayne, Thanks again! It does have a very nice form. Today I cleaned up the top of the crown so it looks even better.

Mean Eyed Matt · Nov 12, 2020

mayserwegener said:
Matt, Thanks! They are a similar process but Chamois tends to be a Finer Finish + Higher Quality Felt.

Thanks for the info, Steve:
I've never had a "Chamois" in my hands so far - but I've had several "Antelope" of varying quality.
So now I can imagine what kind of felt "Chamois" is, and if it is even higher quality than what I know,
it must be a fantastic felt! Is it a typical finish of the post-war period, or did it already exist pre-war?

mayserwegener · Nov 12, 2020

Mean Eyed Matt said:
Thanks for the info, Steve:
I've never had a "Chamois" in my hands so far - but I've had several "Antelope" of varying quality.
So now I can imagine what kind of felt "Chamois" is, and if it is even higher quality than what I know,
it must be a fantastic felt! Is it a typical finish of the post-war period, or did it already exist pre-war?

Matt, Yes such finishes existed pre WWII. They were / are produced by sanding effects. Here is an article from the late 1930s on new European Machines (Brüder Böhm is featured) that produce Specialty Finishes. There are also some interesting correspondences I found regarding the Brüder Böhm machine.

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/7-brüder-böhm-hutfabrik/?do=findComment&comment=570

Such machines became even more multifunctional post WWII. I have a lot information on this topic but I haven't gotten around to finishing the translations. There is a large void in such information here (which leads to misunderstanding).

steur · Nov 12, 2020

mayserwegener said:
Oberbayerische Hutfabrik gmbH. Miesbach "Edelweiss-Hut" "Chamois", 58 cm, 1955. The Chamois Felt is really fantastic (color, finish, hand) and easily dry creases. This is the first of a seven hat find.

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Great find, Steve. Wonderful felt and a cool ribbon treatment. Very similar to the Hückel chamois finished hats in grey.

Mean Eyed Matt · Nov 12, 2020

Thank you, Steve, for the information here and everywhere else!
I'm not firm in making felts and hats and actually I've always been more interested in form and style.
But meanwhile I would like to know how the beautiful things in the world are/have been made!
So Thanks to you and all the others supplying me with learning material!

mayserwegener · Nov 13, 2020

steur said:
Great find, Steve. Wonderful felt and a cool ribbon treatment. Very similar to the Hückel chamois finished hats in grey.

Stefan, Thank you again! I tend to think this hat came Open Crown. The felt is really fantastic.

mayserwegener · Nov 13, 2020

Mean Eyed Matt said:
Thank you, Steve, for the information here and everywhere else!
I'm not firm in making felts and hats and actually I've always been more interested in form and style.
But meanwhile I would like to know how the beautiful things in the world are/have been made!
So Thanks to you and all the others supplying me with learning material!

Matt, As you know I am very interested in Velour and Specialty finishes.

mayserwegener · Nov 13, 2020

Rockel "Velourette", 58 cm possibly late 1950s. The finish is Chamois like so I would be interesting to know why Rockel chose the "Velourette" name. I have one other "Velourette" and it also has a Chamois like finish. I really like the Ribbon and Bow design. This is the second hat from my recent seven hat find.

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mayserwegener · Nov 14, 2020

Rockel "Jupiter", 58 cm possibly mid to late 1950s. The Chamois like felt is fantastic (color, finish, hand) and easily dry creases. Also really like the form and mid width band / ribbon. Unfortunately the liner is missing so I might look for a replacement. This is the third hat from my recent seven hat find.

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steur · Nov 15, 2020

mayserwegener said:
Rockel "Jupiter", 58 cm possibly mid to late 1950s. The Chamois like felt is fantastic (color, finish, hand) and easily dry creases. Also really like the form and mid width band / ribbon. Unfortunately the liner is missing so I might look for a replacement. This is the third hat from my recent seven hat find.

Open Crown

Natural Light

Quite the haul so far, Steve. Very nice hats. I really like the shape of this Rockel Jupiter.

mayserwegener · Nov 16, 2020

steur said:
Quite the haul so far, Steve. Very nice hats. I really like the shape of this Rockel Jupiter.

Stefan, Thanks! I like the shape / form too.

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