Yep. They fit ok. I have thin legs. I get 32 waist with a 34 length (I'm six two). I just bought 2 pairs of regular cowboys in black. Far as I can tell they don't do black in rigid.
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Yep. They fit ok. I have thin legs. I get 32 waist with a 34 length (I'm six two). I just bought 2 pairs of regular cowboys in black. Far as I can tell they don't do black in rigid.
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I also have a Premier HWM on order and I modified the shoulder length of the size 36 jacket to a 17.5" as the stock measurement was too small (size 36 is 16.5" and size 38 is 17").
Man, hard to argue with that picture that you shared, it really is uncanny.
I do see what you meant, that's just cool to know that such a cool guy wore something similar to my custom jacket. Thank you
On the Aero premier HWM, yea, the stock size 42 has a shoulder of 17.5?! (while the chest is 22.5) Not even my Euro fit Belstaff has a shoulder as narrow as that. I wonder if anyone who owns one can comment here.
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I think North Star has a black cxl PHWM, don't know the size. @handymike wears a 36 I believe. @ton312 used to have one too then he moved it on. @Nykwil has a 42 in BB Vicenza.Not sure who else owns one.
My PHWM was about 19” across in the shoulder, 23.5” pit. Felt really tight though. More so even than jackets with smaller numbers in those spots. Looking back the fit wasn’t bad. It was a bit too trim in the arms and shoulders but the main thing for me was the length. It was simply too long for the style I think. Size 44”:
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The midnight blue cxl is really cool. Do you like it more than the cordovan or brown cxl? Hope to see how that bad boy soon
My PHWYMN is a 38 with 17 1/4” shoulders. I just wish it were a bit longer in the front. It definitely isn’t made for someone with Ton’s arms. They are slim! I don’t work out and I have a tough time bending my elbows if I have a layer underneath.
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Definitely agree, my jacket looks like that. The overall profile and even the pocket placements are similar. the design on the cuffs are different, I will have that same design element in my upcoming FL jacket though
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I probably will fit in the size 38 in the chest/shoulder but will be loose on the waist/bottom sweep. I went with the size 36 with 17.5" shoulders, hope the chest to chest is closer to 20" so it's not too tight on me.
So not a lot of front drop in the jacket huh
Cordo and that batch of Midnight are my fav for depth of color/ leather hallucinations. I’m not sure if the current batch has the same chops. I’ll just have to hope so....I haven’t seen it!
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Got it, I've noticed the front drop really makes a difference how the jacket wears. For my next JL project I'll add 0.5 inch to the back length and add more front of a front drop too. I've always liked how the HWM looks, I just hope it will look good on me too.
I think I get what you mean, the midnight cxl looks green/black/blue/eggplant on my tablet screen or maybe I just need a new ipad lol. Man, I'm sure this time it will be even better than the last batch you had. Can't wait to see what they give you.
I believe I’d have to remove these Getty photos. I thought pasting watermarked photos on discussion forums is ok but apparently not! Anyone have any ideas?
I received my Wranglers yesterday, I had to go up one size from my usual Levis 505 waist. Turns out that they measure exactly the same as 505s! Well built jeans for $19. I just find it interesting that they get so much play as “higher rise/ vintage cut” when there are others out there. I get 505s at Ross And Marshalls for $19 too.
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My guess is just because the 13MWZ is pretty much their flagship cut, and has been for some time. If they have changed the cut, the alterations have been very minor, so it pretty much is a vintage cut. Levi's has 511, 501, 502, etc. Of course, Wrangler has other models that they sell at Walmart, Target, other places, but I've always seen their 13MWZ around here the most.
Apparently they don't have the brown Milan in stock but they're contacting Horween about it, and might be willing to stock if if they get enough requests.
Although if they can't get a hold of some, I will consider a skived down burgundy CXL. This time I'm going for something simple, half belt with back gussets.
Although if they can't get a hold of some, I will consider a skived down burgundy CXL. This time I'm going for something simple, half belt with back gussets.
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Yeah, they have. 13MWZs have been around since the 50s, but they are both "vintage cuts". It's more that Wrangler has primarily focused on their cowboy cut / 13MWZ fit, whereas Levi's has a lot of different fits that have varying levels of popularity. Personally I was always more familiar with their 501 / 511 fits, and have associated them with low rise cuts. (The 501 is supposed to be high rise, I think, but its always fit weird when I've tried the on).
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501s are described as a regular mid-rise and I think it’s right, that’s how they feel to me.
There is a 1967 505 model that LVC make so I suppose they have been around at least since then.
There is a 1967 505 model that LVC make so I suppose they have been around at least since then.
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