What is this jacket style called? (made by Ship John)

phillyforager · Jul 30, 2020

Hi All,

I have been looking to pick up this jacket from Ship John for a long time.. But they will not make any more of them. So I will be resorting to looking elsewhere for a similar jacket.

What is the name of this style? I am hoping to pick it up in a natural horsehide, so if you know of anyone who makes this, please let me know

https://shipjohn.us/collections/clothing/products/langlitz-x-ship-john-veg-tanned-wills-deposit

Thanks!

Psant25 · Jul 30, 2020

Wills jacket ...

Psant25 · Jul 30, 2020

I would think you can just work with langlitz and spec one just like it. Did you talk to them?

phillyforager · Jul 30, 2020

Psant25 said:
Wills jacket ...

There has to be a traditional style name for this sort of 4 front pocket style jacket. I obviously know that Ship John calls it the Wills.... But I was looking for a traditional name so that I can buy it elsewhere.

phillyforager · Jul 30, 2020

Psant25 said:
I would think you can just work with langlitz and spec one just like it. Did you talk to them?

I will be calling them today. Thank you!

Psant25 · Jul 30, 2020

phillyforager said:
There has to be a traditional style name for this sort of 4 front pocket style jacket. I obviously know that Ship John calls it the Wills.... But I was looking for a traditional name so that I can buy it elsewhere.

Oh lol sorry. It looks like a chore coat style front and langlitz crescent type back. If langlitz will not check out Johnson Leathers Instagram page. They did a cool chore coat a while back.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0oXn6Gldc6/?igshid=q3yb14phzfaf

El Marro · Jul 30, 2020

I would say that chore coat or barn jacket are two names that apply to that style.

El Marro · Jul 30, 2020

And I agree that Johnson Leather would be a good place to look at if you want one in leather rather than the more conventional denim or canvas.

Guppy · Jul 30, 2020

Psant25 said:
Oh lol sorry. It looks like a chore coat style front and langlitz crescent type back. If langlitz will not check out Johnson Leathers Instagram page. They did a cool chore coat a while back.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0oXn6Gldc6/?igshid=q3yb14phzfaf

Yeah, I was going to say it looks like they based this jacket on the Crescent, but did custom design on the pockets.

I'm sure it doesn't hurt to ask, but I'd be surprised if Langlitz would be able to make a copy of the jacket. Given it was a limited edition collaboration, they may have an agreement with Ship John that precludes making the pattern. They will also likely refuse to source the Horween Essex leather for a single order, or charge prohibitively for it.

I recall seeing the pre-order announcement a few years back and had forgotten about it, I wonder how many jackets were eventually produced. Would be cool to see one of them to see how it aged.

Graemsay · Jul 31, 2020

Black Bear do a rough out natural leather chore jacket. It might be an alternative to the Ship John Wills.

https://blackbearbrand.com/black-bear-brand-factory-store/horween-rough-out-orion-chorejacket

Alternatively, Ship John are likely to rerun the Wills in a different leather at some point...

Bfd70 · Jul 31, 2020

Agree. Chore coat. Dickies, Pointer, Carhartt have been making them for years.

Monitor · Jul 31, 2020

Yep. even Levi's and Lee. Key Imperial, too.

I don't understand what's with SJ prices all of the sudden? The Langlitz Wills jacket is nice but it's so utilitarian I'd find it difficult to justify spending that much on a jacket literally nobody would even notice being anything special or nice. And I doubt it anyone'd comment "Hey, that's a nice work jacket you got there".

jglf · Jul 31, 2020

Monitor said:
Yep. even Levi's and Lee. Key Imperial, too.

I don't understand what's with SJ prices all of the sudden? The Langlitz Wills jacket is nice but it's so utilitarian I'd find it difficult to justify spending that much on a jacket literally nobody would even notice being anything special or nice. And I doubt it anyone'd comment "Hey, that's a nice work jacket you got there".

Sometimes guys want nice quality pieces to wear that are low key. I’m not a big fan of drawing attention to myself.

Monitor · Jul 31, 2020

jglf said:
Sometimes guys want nice quality pieces to wear that are low key. I’m not a big fan of drawing attention to myself.

I hear you but you can find much cheaper pieces of same or higher quality which is why I'm not really sure what am I paying so much money for with Ship John. I mean, it's all cool gear but I'm thinking that without their IG, nobody would know about them. Dude really knows how to market his gear, the whole story, mood... I love that stuff too, love their IG, just scrolling through makes me happier.

jglf · Jul 31, 2020

Monitor said:
I hear you but you can find much cheaper pieces of same or higher quality which is why I'm not really sure what am I paying so much money for with Ship John. I mean, it's all cool gear but I'm thinking that without their IG, nobody would know about them. Dude really knows how to market his gear, the whole story, mood... I love that stuff too, love their IG, just scrolling through makes me happier.

I agree that a lot of his products are overpriced, but compared to some of the other made in US or Japan workwear brands, his prices are lower or on par. Also, I don’t think his langlitz jackets or Wesco collabs are unreasonably priced. His IG account definitely contributes to a lot of his success.

handymike · Feb 4, 2021

With an entrance like this and the comments in the other SJ thread you need some time in the corner, sir...
Welcome, but chill out a little. If you have a gripe with the brand, it’s best to settle with them first.
If you want to ask advice or share your stories and jackets then you’re in the right place.

El Marro · Feb 4, 2021

I’ve owned a few products from Ship John and I like everything I’ve bought so far. As far as the Wills jacket, it seems to me to be a rather run of the mill take on a chore coat. I went through my waxed cotton phase with Filson and it just really isn’t for me. Therefore I am not bothered by the scarcity of the Wills jacket since I would not purchase one even if they were readily available.

Cornelius · Feb 5, 2021

Graemsay said:
Black Bear do a rough out natural leather chore jacket. It might be an alternative to the Ship John Wills.

https://blackbearbrand.com/black-bear-brand-factory-store/horween-rough-out-orion-chorejacket

Alternatively, Ship John are likely to rerun the Wills in a different leather at some point...

Woah! I couldn't handle paying $1,600 for what is essentially a welding jacket with a couple of extra pockets (and S/M/L off-the-rack at that!).

Graemsay · Feb 5, 2021

Cornelius said:
Woah! I couldn't handle paying $1,600 for what is essentially a welding jacket with a couple of extra pockets (and S/M/L off-the-rack at that!).

I'm not sure of any brands that have a custom chore jacket pattern. The Himel Canuck and Aero Premier Work Jacket are probably the closest to the Skip John x Langlitz, but they hark back to an earlier period.

The Sunset Bay Anaheim is a welder's jacket crossed with a coach's jacket, so I suppose that would be another option.

https://anemoscope.jp/products/sunset-bay-anaheim

phillyforager · Feb 7, 2021

Cornelius said:
Woah! I couldn't handle paying $1,600 for what is essentially a welding jacket with a couple of extra pockets (and S/M/L off-the-rack at that!).

Agreed.

Some of the prices that these companies are asking is downright ridiculous.

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