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Harris HTM · Feb 15, 2021

Marc mndt said:
Thanks for your compliment on my collection. I've thought about that, whether a military style like an A1 or A2 would suit me. I think I could pull it off but I'm not sure whether I'd actually wear such a jacket. But if you don't try you don't know and I'm open to try anything, as long as it's quality made.
Today I received a Lewis Leathers biker jacket with padded shoulders. Not too long ago I would have dismissed such a style but now that I've tried, I really like it.

you may try a military inspired jacket, my Happy Days is my spring/summer leather jacket!

torfjord · Feb 15, 2021

firsttimebuyer said:
Does anybody have a picture of how a Brown Chromexcel jacket ages/patinas? I see lots of photos of "natural" color patina, but now much for brown,

Carlos840 · Feb 15, 2021

Marc mndt said:
Thanks for your compliment on my collection. I've thought about that, whether a military style like an A1 or A2 would suit me. I think I could pull it off but I'm not sure whether I'd actually wear such a jacket. But if you don't try you don't know and I'm open to try anything, as long as it's quality made.
Today I received a Lewis Leathers biker jacket with padded shoulders. Not too long ago I would have dismissed such a style but now that I've tried, I really like it.

Like you i am not a fan of the military jackets, but i tried an Eastman A1 last year and it was really nice.
I think it would work well on you, very V shaped jacket, IMO it was nicer than their A2, not as blousy.
To me it instantly went into the list of jackets i wanted to get, but that i was not ready to pay new price for as i don't think i would actually wear it much (not a fan of knits)
A 44 was a great fit on me (i'm a 42 in californian and windward). Since that day i have been looking for one on eBay, but still haven't seen one.

Harris HTM · Feb 15, 2021

torfjord said:
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yeah, a natural light photo reveals much more than the ones I've posted. Great jacket!

torfjord · Feb 15, 2021

Harris HTM said:
yeah, a natural light photo reveals much more than the ones I've posted. Great jacket!

That jacket is long gone unfortunately. Sold it to someone in the classifieds. But I really liked how the brown cxl breaks in!

firsttimebuyer · Feb 15, 2021

Wow that was super helpful. Thanks everybody. Now, here is a harder question. Does anybody have a picture or experience with patinaed battered tan vs patinated unfinished horsehide? From what I have seen they look pretty similar once the unfinished horse has a patina. I also saw a thread where somebody described battered tan as getting lighter when exposed to sunlight, whereas unfinished horse gets darker. Apart from looks, is unfinished horse tough enough for a motorcycle jacket?

MrProper · Feb 15, 2021

Carlos840 said:
I think it would work well on you, very V shaped jacket, IMO it was nicer than their A2, not as blousy.

That's the point. If shoulders and hips have too much V, then the jacket has to support it. Then it may no longer be historically correct, but in my opinion it still looks better.

dlite90 · Feb 15, 2021

Is a super high stitch count necessarily a better construction than, say, 7 stitches per inch?

handymike · Feb 16, 2021

No, not necessarily. Other factors come into play as well.

jonbuilder · Feb 16, 2021

MrProper said:
breaking in process, knocks off some shine and can bring out substantial grain

I have an Aero sunbrust halfbelt in black tumbled and I agree with Aero's description. I think an Aero bootlegger would be nice in brown tumbled horsehide

jonbuilder · Feb 16, 2021

Aero brown CXL horse as requested. Five years moderate use

dlite90 · Feb 16, 2021

I read online that the absolute best leathers in the world don’t come from a tannery, but each part of the tanning process is sourced to different specialists in northern Italy. That made me raise an eyebrow, I wonder if it’s true and if anyone has experience with such leathers.

Bfd70 · Feb 16, 2021

^ “Best”
Let the games begin!

Seb Lucas · Feb 16, 2021

dlite90 said:
I read online that the absolute best leathers in the world don’t come from a tannery, but each part of the tanning process is sourced to different specialists in northern Italy. That made me raise an eyebrow, I wonder if it’s true and if anyone has experience with such leathers.

"Best leathers" always makes me chuckle. Best for what? No doubt in this niche artisanal authenticity movement there will be any number of 'unique' processes and marketing claims.

Fonzie · Feb 16, 2021

ton312 said:
Thanks! I wrote Ken too. Maybe tumbled is the way to go. I worry the jerky won’t stand up to Chicago weather.

MrProper said:
I also understood that Jerky was even lighter than Vicenza and I didn't want that. Now I have unfinished HH, which is in something like Vicenza. If I hadn't wanted natural, I would have taken tumbled too.

I currently own from Aero: CXL (not tumbled but used enough to show same grain), brown Jerky HH, brown Oil pull HH and Vincenza (black and blackened brown).
In order of thickness:
1. CXL
2. jerky HH
3. Vincenza
4. Oil pull
I love them all in their differences but my favourite and probably the one that combines the best characteristics of each one of them is the Jerky HH.

ton312 · Feb 16, 2021

Fonzie said:
I currently own from Aero: CXL (not tumbled but used enough to show same grain), brown Jerky HH, brown Oil pull HH and Vincenza (black and blackened brown).
In order of thickness:
1. CXL
2. jerky HH
3. Vincenza
4. Oil pull
I love them all in their differences but my favourite and probably the one that combines the best characteristics of each one of them is the Jerky HH.

Thanks man! I’m getting a sample to be sure but I really like the look of the jerky HH. Def has the most vintage looking grain.

Seb Lucas · Feb 16, 2021

Fonzie said:
I currently own from Aero: CXL (not tumbled but used enough to show same grain), brown Jerky HH, brown Oil pull HH and Vincenza (black and blackened brown).
In order of thickness:
1. CXL
2. jerky HH
3. Vincenza
4. Oil pull
I love them all in their differences but my favourite and probably the one that combines the best characteristics of each one of them is the Jerky HH.

That's interesting. I wish Aero would provide a typical weight rating for these. They used to say that their medium HH hides were typically 2.2oz thick. I have a Vincenza half-belt and it seems about 2.5oz in weight. Not light by any means from my perspective. Didn't Areo claim that Jerky was their lightest recently? Maybe it is batch dependent. I think I like the look of Jerky the most.

Fonzie · Feb 16, 2021

Seb Lucas said:
That's interesting. I wish Aero would provide a typical weight rating for these. They used to say that their medium HH hides were typically 2.2oz thick. I have a Vincenza half-belt and it seems about 2.5oz in weight. Not light by any means from my perspective. Didn't Areo claim that Jerky was their lightest recently? Maybe it is batch dependent. I think I like the look of Jerky the most.

My oil pull is 5 years old, maybe discontinued leather or batch but definitely lightest and more supple. Jerky is 4 years old, thick as CXL almost but more supple and ageing nicer with the tea core coming through more like vintage ones.
Edit: typo.

Harris HTM · Feb 16, 2021

Seb Lucas said:
That's interesting. I wish Aero would provide a typical weight rating for these. They used to say that their medium HH hides were typically 2.2oz thick. I have a Vincenza half-belt and it seems about 2.5oz in weight. Not light by any means from my perspective. Didn't Areo claim that Jerky was their lightest recently? Maybe it is batch dependent. I think I like the look of Jerky the most.

My vicenza is easily as thick and heavy as any of my cxl fqhh, though far more supple. But I came to understand that this had to do with a batch that they were using around the time my vicenza happy days was made.

dlite90 · Feb 16, 2021

Bfd70 said:
^ “Best”
Let the games begin!

Why would there be any “games” about it?
Someone could just post about said tanning in northern Italy and what it’s like without trying to fling shit.

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