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Fascinating! I knew it was staged, but didn't realize how much!
Being in an open air elevator or in the structural framework never bothered me as much as being 50 ft up on a scissors jack. After those things have been used for a few yrs they develop some slop in the side to side, so you get some movement. Plus you are at the grace of hydraulics holding you up there.

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As a guy who has been up several stories in open elevators & in open structural steel framework I can confirm those series of pics are fake.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...photos-american-workers-is-not-what-it-seems/
When you say fake, do you mean they are actually at ground level and it was photo shopped before that was invented? We all know there were three photographers there, and the guys were posing, but that doesn't constitute a fake pic. I read that article and it doesn't say they were models posing or that they weren't really iron workers. So...?
 
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When you say fake, do you mean they are actually at ground level and it was photo shopped before that was invented? We all know there were three photographers there, and the guys were posing, but that doesn't constitute a fake pic. I read that article and it doesn't say they were models posing or that they weren't really iron workers. So...?
I've started a reply 2 or 3 times now & it's easy to get too complicated very quickly. I'm trying to keep this simple by not getting into engineering & steel erection techniques, by just giving what is known about the photograph & some easy things to think about.

Talking about just the "Lunch Time" photo the men pictured were real workers on the project, although only 2-3 have ever been positively identified. The pic was staged but obviously cropped to make it look more realistic.

It's hard to tell much about the beams the men are sitting on other than it is a pair of I-beams instead of a single wide flange (WF) beam like would be used today. Can't see the beam ends because they are out of the pic, can't see any punched holes in the web for the clip angles, can't see any welded knockoff tabs keeping the I-beams aligned together until in place. And if the I-beams are the end beam to the floor beams below, the photograph is taken to make it look like the I-beams are way outside the cable, above & way off the ends from the floor beams. I guess we are supposed to believe it's swinging because it wouldn't be structural at that location. The guy on the end right has his toes forward of the cable, yet if you don't look at his feet you get the impression they are all several yards outside the cable. In reality the beam should be just above the ends of the floor beams & inside the cable.

It's supposed to be Sept & they are 70 stories up. Think about the wind-loading & the temperature difference from ground level, yet no one has lost their cap & one man is shirtless. No way would they be able to walk out on a narrow beam on the outside of a structure like that, then sit down one at a time. They could be sitting on a beam supported just a few ft above the floor beams below, & possibly a catch net below those.

The pic up thread of the guy standing on top that steeple hat in hand, makes me laugh.


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Floor beams with clip angles punched & welded.

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