The Bowler or Derby Hat

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

Young's 1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

Bill & Caldwell 1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

The Dreyer Hat Co. 1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

John W. Green & Sons 1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

Stetson Featherweight Self Conforming Derby 1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

Gold Bond Hat Manufacturing Co. 1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

Montague-Gibson Co. 1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

1910

DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

1910

Rmccamey · Apr 7, 2021

Thanks for the great old hat ads, Dave.

DaveProc said:
Stetson Featherweight Self Conforming Derby 1910

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DaveProc said:
Montague-Gibson Co. 1910
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DaveProc · Apr 7, 2021

Rmccamey said:
Thanks for the great old hat ads, Dave.

Thanks. I hope it isn't overkill.

mayserwegener · Apr 7, 2021

P. & C. Habig Wien "Grand Prix Paris", 57 cm, 110 grams, late 1890s - 1900. The Felt is very thin and light weight with a great smooth finish. The black liner with gold embossing is striking. The textured sweatband is also very light weight with the "Patent Ventilator" holes. There was a newspaper (from September 4, 1903) spacer behind the rear of the sweatband. I am thinking this was able made for the Paris 1900 World Exposition or was made the year after P. & C. Habig Wien winning the "Grand Prix" at the Paris 1900 World Exposition. I took some photos wearing it so the curved form will be more apparent. This is one of my best Stiff Felt finds.

Patent Ventilator

Paper Label with Handwritten Entries, Stitched in Liner

Newspaper Spacer, Berliner Börsen-Zeitung, Friday, the 4th. September 1903. (The seller told me that the Melone belonged to a Banker in Greiz, Germany so that explains the use of the Berliner Börsen-Zeitung Financial Newspaper as a spacer.)

P. & C. Habig Wien - Berlin Catalog, possibly mid 1890s to early 1900s.

Similar Stiff Felt Forms, Also P. & C. Habig Wien Crest with "Patent Ventilator"

Natural Light (Very Similar Hat to No. 16 above)

glider · Apr 8, 2021

I very seldom see a bowler for sale on the bay. Never see one in an antique shop. I feel like I should have at least one but I'm to tight to pay a couple hundred for a fur felt Stetson bowler so where do you guys find these bowlers ? My local hat shop, Levine, usually has a few but they are either cheap looking stiff wool or damn expensive. Besides , it's fun finding nice old hats in great shape for a good price.

Steve1857 · Apr 8, 2021

I've been lucky enough to find mine at antique fairs, flea markets, Facebook Marketplace, and here via friends on the FL. I've seen quite a few on eBay, too.

glider said:
I very seldom see a bowler for sale on the bay. Never see one in an antique shop. I feel like I should have at least one but I'm to tight to pay a couple hundred for a fur felt Stetson bowler so where do you guys find these bowlers ? My local hat shop, Levine, usually has a few but they are either cheap looking stiff wool or damn expensive. Besides , it's fun finding nice old hats in great shape for a good price.

BobHufford · Apr 9, 2021

glider said:
I very seldom see a bowler for sale on the bay. Never see one in an antique shop. I feel like I should have at least one but I'm to tight to pay a couple hundred for a fur felt Stetson bowler so where do you guys find these bowlers ? My local hat shop, Levine, usually has a few but they are either cheap looking stiff wool or damn expensive. Besides , it's fun finding nice old hats in great shape for a good price.

What size are you looking for?

glider · Apr 9, 2021

7 1/4 Bob. It's almost straw season. I think I'm going to order a porkpie from Stratton but they don't offer a bowler.

Hurricane Jack · Apr 9, 2021

mayserwegener said:
I took some photos wearing it so the curved form will be more apparent. This is one of my best Stiff Felt finds.

That is superb & I really like the curved shape. Very sharp & timeless!

mayserwegener · Apr 9, 2021

Hurricane Jack said:
That is superb & I really like the curved shape. Very sharp & timeless!

Jack, Thank you! I believe this is the only Stiff Felt I have with a purposeful curve front to back (similar to the ones in posted catalog). You can get a curve if the Stiff Felt is stretched too much front to back but the curve will not be uniform and the front and rear Brims will not be flat.

Hurricane Jack · Apr 13, 2021

@Steve1857

I found these collars among others listed by the seller at the link below:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/560930...campaign=us_location_buyer&utm_content=143113

Steve1857 · Apr 13, 2021

Thanks Jack. Kind of you. I will look into those.

Hurricane Jack said:
@Steve1857

I found these collars among others listed by the seller at the link below:

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https://www.etsy.com/listing/560930...campaign=us_location_buyer&utm_content=143113

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