Panos, I am not sure if I have Wool Velour. I have some pre WWII advertisements for them. I will have to post photos of some of the advertisements.Steve thank you! They probably belonged to the same person, since they came together and sized similarly. And thanks to your site I knew what HBB meantI am yet to see a wool felt in velour finish in person though, the closest I have is the French one I posted recently.
Panos, I am not sure if I have Wool Velour. I have some pre WWII advertisements for them. I will have to post photos of some of the advertisementsSteve thank you! They probably belonged to the same person, since they came together and sized similarly. And thanks to your site I knew what HBB meant
Panos, Thanks! All together it took just over 4 months from when the package left Germany. I think the seller might have popped some of the sweatband stiches taking photos of the paper label.
So elegant!Collins Wien "Prima Smoking Hat", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s. The black Felt has a nice Smooth Finish and is pliable so easily dry creases. The under Brim is reinforced with binding material so a formal Camber form worn Brim Up. The overall quality is high and the condition is excellent. Definitely a unique find.
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Collins Wien "Prima Smoking Hat", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s. The black Felt has a nice Smooth Finish and is pliable so easily dry creases. The under Brim is reinforced with binding material so a formal Camber form worn Brim Up. The overall quality is high and the condition is excellent. Definitely a unique find.
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Panos, Thanks! It's a pleasant surprise.
Steve, Thank you! I will have take up smoking although the hat has no cigarette or cigar oder. The seller told me it belonged to her great grandfather who was a orchestral violinist in the Graz Philharmonic.
Collins Wien "Prima Smoking Hat", 58 cm, possibly late 1950s. The black Felt has a nice Smooth Finish and is pliable so easily dry creases. The under Brim is reinforced with binding material so a formal Camber form worn Brim Up. The overall quality is high and the condition is excellent. Definitely a unique find.
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Matt, Thank you! Yes it's the only "Smoking Hat" but similar to the "Tuxedo Hats".
Matt, I should have looked closer at the Willoughby!
That solves both issues regarding Tuxedo Hat and Smoking Hat. The Willoughby can also be rolled which led me to not look at it closer. I guess it's possible Willoughby also offered a more rigid standard version. Hopefully more of these are found.
Matt, Thanks! Yes this one was either rebuilt or the JHS Sweatband was added to a new hat. The JHS sweatband was from a Hat shop in Graz so it never left that location. The seller said she didn't have any background information because it belonged to her great grandfather who passed away a while ago. I just posted photos wearing it which I added to the above post.
This one is in a different league altogether!"Echter Mayser" in black - size 59 (slightly smaller but fits perfectly) - possibly early/mid 50s (?)
almost unused/perfect condition - very soft and malleable felt - medium wide crown band (3 cm).
super wide (for my hats) brim binding (1,1 cm!) on top and bottom with triple stitching
open, almost straight crown at 14.5 cm; brim at a great 7.0 cm
offered as "Homburg" - for me "Camber style" - also good to wear brim down as "Fedora".
interesting "signage" and thus hat history - a lot of info is already here in the threat:
Maybe Steve can sort it out again though, in case I'm saying something wrong...
"Echter Mayser" - so Mayser Ulm - as manufacturer in the crown and on the sweat
sold at "Joh.(ann) Zehme" in Munich: famous hat shop - itself rich in tradition - closed in 2013
label inside reveals that it was / could be obtained through "Hut Seidl" - also Munich.
Anton Seidl (himself a manufacturer) was significantly involved in "Mayser" since 1914.
As early as 1912, Seidl had also bought out the hat store "Joh. Zehme" in Munich.
The last owner of "Zehme" was Michael Zechbauer, Great-grandson of Anton Seidl via his son-in-law Curt M. Zechbauer.
https://www.hutstuebele.com/Home-MAYSER-von-der-hutlosen-Gesellschaft-zur-wohl-beHueteten-Welt.html
https://www.tz.de/muenchen/stadt/zehme-fussgaengerzone-traditionshaus-schliesst-tz-2691756.html
https://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/muenchen/hutmacher-raus-prada-rein-art-169428
PS: This is the same model as a hat Fastuni sold some years ago:
"Echter Mayser" in olive - sold by "Joh. Zehme, Munich" too
Have a look at the label of that one: not "Hut Seidl" but "Joh. Zehme"
The model number ("Art. 56465") ist the same like mine: "56465"
Also the controlling number ("Ktr. 33427") is nearly the same: "34406"
This one was stamp dated "21. Dez. 1952" - mine probably similar
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/german-austrian-hutmachers.32103/page-261#post-2139729
Compare also Steve's "Echter Mayser - Superbe" with a Seidl-label inside...
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/german-austrian-hutmachers.32103/page-112#post-1553627
Matt, Super find and in great condition. The quality is super high. I am not sure why Mayser used a "Hut Seidl" paper label. My guess would be because of the ownership situation you mentioned. I think it might be from the time period of this one."Echter Mayser" in black - size 59 (slightly smaller but fits perfectly) - possibly early/mid 50s (?)
almost unused/perfect condition - very soft and malleable felt - medium wide crown band (3 cm).
super wide (for my hats) brim binding (1,1 cm!) on top and bottom with triple stitching
open, almost straight crown at 14.5 cm; brim at a great 7.0 cm
offered as "Homburg" - for me "Camber style" - also good to wear brim down as "Fedora". I believe it's from about the same time period of this one.
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/3-mayser-hutfabrik/?do=findComment&comment=345
interesting "signage" and thus hat history - a lot of info is already here in the threat:
Maybe Steve can sort it out again though, in case I'm saying something wrong...
"Echter Mayser" - so Mayser Ulm - as manufacturer in the crown and on the sweat
sold at "Joh.(ann) Zehme" in Munich: famous hat shop - itself rich in tradition - closed in 2013
label inside reveals that it was / could be obtained through "Hut Seidl" - also Munich.
Anton Seidl (himself a manufacturer) was significantly involved in "Mayser" since 1914.
As early as 1912, Seidl had also bought out the hat store "Joh. Zehme" in Munich.
The last owner of "Zehme" was Michael Zechbauer, Great-grandson of Anton Seidl via his son-in-law Curt M. Zechbauer.
https://www.hutstuebele.com/Home-MAYSER-von-der-hutlosen-Gesellschaft-zur-wohl-beHueteten-Welt.html
https://www.tz.de/muenchen/stadt/zehme-fussgaengerzone-traditionshaus-schliesst-tz-2691756.html
https://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/muenchen/hutmacher-raus-prada-rein-art-169428
PS: This is the same model as a hat Fastuni sold some years ago:
"Echter Mayser" in olive - sold by "Joh. Zehme, Munich" too
Have a look at the label of that one: not "Hut Seidl" but "Joh. Zehme"
The model number ("Art. 56465") ist the same like mine: "56465"
Also the controlling number ("Ktr. 33427") is nearly the same: "34406"
This one was stamp dated "21. Dez. 1952" - mine probably similar
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/german-austrian-hutmachers.32103/page-261#post-2139729
Compare also Steve's "Echter Mayser - Superbe" with a Seidl-label inside...
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/german-austrian-hutmachers.32103/page-112#post-1553627
Mayser Hats Year 125 (1925)
I translated the "Mayser Hats Year 125" booklet from 1925. You can click on the pages and images to enlarge. Also click on the embedded links to see the associated images. I still need to fix some minor translation issues.
Mayser Hats Year 125 (1925)
https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/594-mayser-hats-year-125/
Matt, I thought at first the cartons were older but after contacting the company I found out that they were from the 1950s. The JHS Hats were probably placed in the cartons in that time period.Hückel hat box - Steve has already shown several of them here.
I was wondering about the age: On the one hand Steve got 30s hats in it,
on the other there is the post to Zeitler-Karton on your homepage that says 50s...
Either way - I present it with my JHS Superior Velour
