What's your favorite, most psychologial-impressive movie scene??

Just unforgetable.

green papaya said:

looks like the rest of it is probably supposed to be partially buried?

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In revisiting this thread (due to a new post notification), what also struck me was not only the fragment of the statue and its general overall condition, but where it is lying, or rather, what it is lying next to.

Anyone who knows New York City knows that its geography does not include rocks/boulders of that size, and especially in lower Manhattan, and on a beach, which lower Manhattan does not have, at least at the moment.

Of course, what we don't know is the (future) history of the events in between the time period the movie began (some recent point post-1968) and where most of the movie occurs (~4000 AD).

Was the statue moved by people before a likely nuclear event? Not likely, but who knows? Was it near an explosion (likely in a post-apocalyptic world, as NYC would be a primary target) and this piece of it flew a great distance, landing some ways away from metro-NYC? There are huge stone formations as close as lower upstate New York. Possible, but not likely. Or was the attack and devastation so overwhelming that the landscape was actually changed? Could that stone, for example, be a part of the bedrock of NYC, now sticking up out of the ground? And if this was the case, how the heck did anything, including humans, and especially apes, survive?

Some of the later films, both in the original series, and then in the franchise reboot beginning in 2001, and then in 2011, 2014 and 2017, attempt to explain some of what led up to what made the events in the first movie possible, although not necessarily the details of that final scene,as the newer films seem to more accurately follow the premise of the original novel, La Planète des Singes (1963), later published in the UK as Monkey Planet, and in the U.S. as Planet of the Apes. The original film's script was originally adapted by Rod Serling (Twilight Zone), and included changes such as the Statue of Liberty ending.

Trenchfriend said:

But I think, the whole red line of "The Godfather"-trilogy is, that Michael was just a real lonesome "killer", since his service in WW II.
He wanted to get the family-business legal, but from the bottom of his heart, he was a hard-boiled soldier. He wanted to get away from the family and serve in WW II, but then, he became more hard-boiled than these Mafia-guys....He never comprehended his own problem.

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Michael as portrayed in Mario Puzo's novel, The Godfather is a man caught in a fated web,
shackled by circumstances beyond his control, which to some extent he freely accepted as primogeniture
obligation following the death of his elder brother and return to New York. His character is flawed and he
will make compromise with conscience, but at his core Michael Corleone is a pragmatist, not a psychotic.

To me it is the scene of Joshua (Tim Roth) arguing with his father (Maximilian Schell) in „Little Odessa“.

Worf said:

Hmmm interesting thread. I'd say in "The Sixth Sense" when Bruce Willis realizes finally... that he is one of dead that's been haunting the child.

Worf

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Hashtag spoiler alert!

Kidding, worst kept secret since the death of Ned Stark in Game of Thrones.

scottyrocks said:

Certainly, but at 8 years old, it was just, 'What the heck happened to the rest of it,' or some unformed sentence in my mind that contained no real words but meant the same thing.



Well, yes, after all, they couldn't have possibly shot it from the south!

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Saw this as a kid, and even then, even being Canadian, thought "there are no rocks like that at or near that statue."

Still love it.


"Oh shit."

The USO tour segment in Apocalypse Now. Something about the silent arrival, the pyrotechnics, the crashed helicopter, and the truncated show hit me at a visceral level.

green papaya said:

they filmed this scene at ZUMA beach, Malibu, California, if it was in NY wouldnt the beach be the opposite side since it was supposed to be on the east coast?

looks like the rest of it is probably supposed to be partially buried?

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I'm pretty sure that's why they framed that shot the way they did, with the cliffs/land mass on the left and the ocean on the right as Taylor and Nova discover the statue--to give the impression that we, the audience, are standing behind them looking north.

scottyrocks said:

In revisiting this thread (due to a new post notification), what also struck me was not only the fragment of the statue and its general overall condition, but where it is lying, or rather, what it is lying next to...

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Now you're thinking. Remember folks, the Statue of Liberty is currently on it's own little island in the bay area between mainland New York and Long Island, and none of the topography on the mainland adjacent to the statue looks like it does in that scene. So either it was uprooted and relocated, or the landscape of the New York coast had changed drastically over time.

One of my favorite "most psychologically impressive" movie scenes comes from Crimson Tide (1995). The story of the movie is essentially the veteran Captain (Gene Hackman) and inexperienced First Officer (Denzel Washington) of an nuclear U.S. submarine seriously disagreeing on how to proceed when communications are severed at a critical moment during their mission to recover stolen nuclear missiles; the right decision could prevent nuclear war, while the wrong decision could start one. The trouble is, this brief moment of brilliant acting occurs during the exact moment in the movie in which we discover which of the officers was correct, so I can't discuss it openly without completely "spoiling" the movie for anyone who might not have seen it yet. So...

^Thought Crimson Tide was Alabama-tune in later this month for Alabama v Georgia.

Haven't seen this flick, and, perhaps I shouldn't voice cynicism but somehow why am I not surprised
who won this particular coin toss. Call me a racist, but the Hollywood agenda and Denzel's race seem
to my 'racist' mindset; despite my admiration for Denzel, a daggone-foregoner. Not to start an arguer,
but the studio product is too reflective of the prevailing culture.

They call Alabama the Crimson Tide,
Call me Deacon Blues.

scottyrocks said:

They call Alabama the Crimson Tide,
Call me Deacon Blues.

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I admire Bama's success but damn Nick Saban has to be the most glum, sour pussed, unpleasant man around. It is a good thing he gets paid well because he sure don't seem to be enjoying himself much.

Harp said:

^Thought Crimson Tide was Alabama-tune in later this month for Alabama v Georgia.

Haven't seen this flick, and, perhaps I shouldn't voice cynicism but somehow why am I not surprised
who won this particular coin toss. Call me a racist, but the Hollywood agenda and Denzel's race seem
to my 'racist' mindset; despite my admiration for Denzel, a daggone-foregoner. Not to start an arguer,
but the studio product is too reflective of the prevailing culture.

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That had never occurred to me. If anything I suppose I've perceived it as more of an "ageist' thing; the "old school set-in-his-ways" Captain Ramsey versus the younger "new/fresh ideas and methods" Lieutenant Commander Hunter, each trying to prove his ways are better.

Zombie_61 said:

.... I've perceived it as more of an "ageist' thing;
the "old school set-in-his-ways" Captain Ramsey versus the younger "new/fresh ideas and methods" Lieutenant Commander Hunter, each trying to prove his ways are better.

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If LTC Hunter was Caucasian, nominally I would also go that route; however, the cultural winds
are too abrasive for perceived non compliance, so if cynicism is staked consequent with objectivity,
c'est la vie.