Interesting Panama hat in dark brown!

citRon · Feb 25, 2008

Bailey's Clifton Panama Hat in 'Gaucho' color:

http://www.shoebuy.com/bailey-of-hollywood-clifton-22704/231592/496402

Panamabob · Feb 25, 2008

Dark Cocoa Cuenca. Brisa weave. It is the "Avacado" crown, as named in Ecuador.

Rick Blaine · Feb 26, 2008

Looks good, though I must tell you a couple of years ago I got this Miller:

from the "genuine Panama" collection. I thought "great a lovely faux patina with great proportions". It may have been genuine, I dunno, but it was genuinely stiff as a wicker trunk from Pier 1! Whatever it was they used to color it (I guess) rendered it about as unlike anything I think of as a panama, a real disappointment ...that said RBH loves his.

Panamabob · Feb 26, 2008

It isn't what they color it with. They are as soft as a regular hat after coloring. Whatever stiffener Miller put on it is what made it hard.

RBH · Feb 26, 2008

Rick Blaine said:
Looks good, though I must tell you a couple of years ago I got this Miller:

from the "genuine Panama" collection. I thought "great a lovely faux patina with great proportions". It may have been genuine, I dunno, but it was genuinely stiff as a wicker trunk from Pier 1! Whatever it was they used to color it (I guess) rendered it about as unlike anything I think of as a panama, a real disappointment ...that said RBH loves his.

True Rick... but I have changed my mind on the dark one.
I love the shape, brim width, and most of all the color.
BUT I have come to dislike the stiffness.
I dont mind saying that I have changed my mind on this but also I do say I love that color, may be why I like the PB straw so well.
I also have a Logan in the bleached color and it was not at all stiff [but was almost white at the time. now a creamy color] I LOVE THE BLEACHED and would consider getting another .
I replaced the ribbon with a thin ribbon and do wear it all the time in the summer.It has held up very well.
Here is a couple of shots of it from last summer.

As as side note I also wore this hat in Mexico this past Jan. I packed it in the suitcase and it was none the worse for wear.{ I wore my Adventurebilt down there] My in-laws have some photos but I do not have any of them yet.
I will try to post a few of them when I can.

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Rick Blaine · Feb 26, 2008

RBH said:
...
I love the shape, brim width, and most of all the color.
BUT I have come to dislike the stiffness.
...I love that color, may be why I like the PB straw so well.
I also have a Logan in the bleached color and it was not at all stiff [but was almost white at the time. now a creamy color] I LOVE THE BLEACHED and would consider getting another .
I replaced the ribbon with a thin ribbon and do wear it all the time in the summer.It has held up very well.
Here is a couple of shots of it from last summer.

As as side note I also wore this hat in Mexico this past Jan. I packed it in the suitcase and it was none the worse for wear.{ I wore my Adventurebilt down there] My in-laws have some photos but I do not have any of them yet.
I will try to post a few of them when I can.

<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3447/millertu8.jpg" border="0" alt="logan"/></a>

<a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/5857/panamamayq5.jpg" border="0" alt="loganII"/></a>

Agreed! Everything else is just right about this line. I have always wondered if the bleached models lacked the stiffness in the colored ones. I have a bleached Biltmore that looks much like this & is my summer daily beater.
I also have a Christies & a Borsalino w/ a similar (brown/tan) color that are soft & supple as a proper Panama should be... go figure!
I love the thin ribbon, BTW, what a great summer hat!

surely · Feb 26, 2008

Such a waste. Isn't there a way to take the stiffness out without ruining the hat?

jec · Jun 9, 2008

Anyone tried this hat?

Sorry to bump this thread back up top, but has anyone actually tried this dark 'gaucho' color Clifton hat from Bailey? Is it stiff and like wicker, as one of the older posts says about dyed straw? OR is the feel more like a typical Panama? Just wondering...

Woodfluter · Jun 10, 2008

Adding to the queries (because I too love the shape):

(1) Does it have a leather sweatband?

(2) Can someone say whether there's any way to de-stiffen it without wrecking it? Like alcohol, or steam, or gamma rays?

- Bill

Colby Jack · Jun 10, 2008

PanamaBob is carrying those darker versions now...about the same price and you know you're getting a quality hat!:eusa_clap :eusa_clap :eusa_clap

jec · Jun 10, 2008

Yes, PanamaBob has been listing dark-toned Cuenca hats on EBay in a couple of different blocked shapes - but none so far is finished in a traditional 'outback' style like this Bailey Clifton.

I am still curious to know if anyone here has seen or tried this one on ...

Panamabob · Jun 10, 2008

I shoulda gone for the avacado crown! DUH! Ours aren't hard, have leather, and they don't cost $74.95 even with shipping! I'm going to quick order some up in that crown, though.

Lancealot · Jun 10, 2008

Panama Bob's Indy

For a dark brown you can't go wrong with either one of these

jec · Jun 10, 2008

Thank you for your input Panama Bob! I will wait for one of yours.

JerseyJones · Jun 10, 2008

They all look very cool. There may be something new in the works that you'll all like in this regard. Stay tuned.

Ken

apipeguy · Jun 10, 2008

hi guys. where on the Panamabob site can you select a brown or tanish brown?

gdkenoyer · Jun 10, 2008

I've not seen them on his website but you can find them in eBay, PB lists under (I beleive) "panama hatworks of Montecristi".

Tom-n-Perris · Jun 11, 2008

Panama Bobs Ebay name is panamahatsecuador.

Tom-n-Perris · Jun 11, 2008

This is what got me started thinking about a new ribbon for my brown Panama Hat.

cooncatbob said:
I'll start this off. Not exactly new as I got it for myself for Christmas, but it's likely to be the last new hat I get for a while.

The Dusty Rose. By Art Fawcett.

Then I came up with this. This is my first attempt at putting a new ribbon on any hat. I still need a lot more practice.

Lancealot · Jun 11, 2008

I like it. Very nice.

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