Bring back old Hollywood!!

jtcarrey · Aug 5, 2008

I'm so sick of all the violence in todays movies, and all the sex and drugs and partying. What happenned to the good old days when movies were glamourous and actually enjoyable to watch? Not just made to bring in some useless dough. If I was a millionaire, I would try and bring back old Hollywood, I would get real glamourous actors, beautiful sets, stunning clothing and real scripts and create film again with those old fashioned cameras.

fftopic: Someday I wish... maybe I'll just live in my own little dream world alone. Sorry I'm just pissed at how society is today, I refuse to buy clothes anymore, I only watch old movies (or disney haha), I listen to records and old music, read old 40's magazines on the train to work, I even talk old fashioned when I can, as soon as I can, I'm buying an old late 30's, early 40's car and all my kids will have old fashioned names, hurry for the past, nertz to this day and age!!

Atterbury Dodd · Aug 5, 2008

You sound like you have the sickness as bad as I do....In fact I thought it was me speaking for a minute.

I'm almost through with humanity--I'm taking the early morining train to Loungeville.[huh]

jtcarrey · Aug 6, 2008

ahhh take me with you...

Lately, most of the people I hang out with were born in the 40's, they have so much more to say than people today, I'm so far gone from being in this world of today that I don't even know who's who anymore, regarding actors, singers, whatever, I barely know anything about the movies in the theaters now except from my friend Candace lol

Just a little side story here, I used to do modeling and acting and was supposed to be caught up in the modern world. I could never fit in though, I always wondered why, my agents always wanted me to dress like a whore and I never did, and they'd get mad, I guess I have too much CLASS to do that! GOSH! I gave up on Hollywood when I found friends that actually APPRECIATE the past and even dress like it (never dressed it until a few months ago! didn't know people did that....) I don't have much vintage clothes, but I am sewing when I have a chance and I'm making dresses from original 40's patterns. Gotta have my fun somehow I guess. I've always been old fashioned though, I knit, sew, crochet, drive like a granny, get thrills out of nature (unlike most people today) ahhhh I'm just sick of the world today. I guess this topic will be moving somewhere else soon huh? HAHAHA

Nighthawk · Aug 6, 2008

jtcarrey said:
I'm so sick of all the violence in todays movies, and all the sex and drugs and partying. What happenned to the good old days when movies were glamourous and actually enjoyable to watch? Not just made to bring in some useless dough. If I was a millionaire, I would try and bring back old Hollywood, I would get real glamourous actors, beautiful sets, stunning clothing and real scripts and create film again with those old fashioned cameras.

Plenty of modern films are just as good as films made during the so-called 'Golden Age'. Likewise, just as there are plenty of bad films made today, plenty bad films were made in the past. Many of the older, terrible films no one sees anymore, and thus never mentions. As for sex/violence/drugs, plenty of that goes on in society, now as in the past. It was only because of forced censorship that such things couldn't be shown. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want censorship today. In fact, many older films were based on the novels of the time, which often were much more risque. In translating such works to film, many 'controversial' elements had to be dropped.

NH

Atterbury Dodd · Aug 6, 2008

jtcarrey said:
ahhh take me with you...

Lately, most of the people I hang out with were born in the 40's, they have so much more to say than people today, I'm so far gone from being in this world of today that I don't even know who's who anymore, regarding actors, singers, whatever, I barely know anything about the movies in the theaters now except from my friend Candace lol

For the most part, ditto Jtcarrey. I've always been rather outdated (if that really means anything).

I think you're definitely eligible for the far Gone's Club.

jtcarrey · Aug 6, 2008

True, yes I know there are good and bad films of both ages, I just prefer old ones, always have... at least we have TCM so we can watch old flick's all day!

I was just ranting when I wrote that... rant HAHA

Nighthawk said:
Plenty of modern films are just as good as films made during the so-called 'Golden Age'. Likewise, just as there are plenty of bad films made today, plenty bad films were made in the past. Many of the older, terrible films no one sees anymore, and thus never mentions. As for sex/violence/drugs, plenty of that goes on in society, now as in the past. It was only because of forced censorship that such things couldn't be shown. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want censorship today. In fact, many older films were based on the novels of the time, which often were much more risque. In translating such works to film, many 'controversial' elements had to be dropped.

NH

jtcarrey · Aug 6, 2008

Atterbury Dodd said:
For the most part, ditto Jtcarrey. I've always been rather outdated (if that really means anything).

I think you're definitely eligible for the far Gone's Club.

ooooooh what's the far gone club??

Nighthawk · Aug 6, 2008

jtcarrey said:
True, yes I know there are good and bad films of both ages, I just prefer old ones, always have... at least we have TCM so we can watch old flick's all day! I was just ranting when I wrote that... rant HAHA

I guess I should have mentioned I prefer older films as well. Believe me, it is so hard to get some people to watch a black and white film with me.

Atterbury Dodd · Aug 6, 2008

Nighthawk said:
As for sex/violence/drugs, plenty of that goes on in society, now as in the past. It was only because of forced censorship that such things couldn't be shown. I don't know about anyone else, but I don't want censorship today. In fact, many older films were based on the novels of the time, which often were much more risque. In translating such works to film, many 'controversial' elements had to be dropped.

NH

Nighthawk, much of what you say is true, however, it was much easier to avoid this stuff back then if you didn't want to have to see it. And class and style abounded none the less.

O.K., not another peep out of me! Not in debate at any rate.

jtcarrey · Aug 6, 2008

Nighthawk said:
I guess I should have mentioned I prefer older films as well. Believe me, it is so hard to get some people to watch a black and white film with me.

ahh well you should join me and some of my older friends for a movie night at our building

unless you're far from Monrovia..

We watch movies every night and play games too..

Fletch · Aug 6, 2008

Yes, it would be ideal if we could put the movie business back to about late 1933-early 1934, just before the rise to power of Mr. Joseph Ignatius Breen, the greatest FINK filmdom ever knew.

Nighthawk · Aug 6, 2008

Atterbury Dodd said:
Nighthawk, much of what you say is true, however, it was much easier to avoid this stuff back then if you didn't want to have to see it. And class and style abounded none the less.

O.K., not another peep out of me! Not in debate at any rate.

Haha, I do see your side as well. I'm not trying to stir up trouble or anything.

jtcarrey said:
ahh well you should join me and some of my older friends for a movie night at our building unless you're far from Monrovia..

We watch movies every night and play games too..

I take it that's Monrovia, California. A little to far way at the moment, one year left of school in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Michigan.

jtcarrey · Aug 6, 2008

ah alright, after school then!

We'll still be around hahaha unless Vintageland finally opens up.. then we'll all be there

jtcarrey · Aug 6, 2008

Fletch said:
Yes, it would be ideal if we could put the movie business back to about late 1933-early 1934, just before the rise to power of Mr. Joseph Ignatius Breen, the greatest FINK filmdom ever knew.

omg that would be so great!! I would definately want to act alongside Ginger and Fred and Joan Blondell and AHHH! just all of them...ahhhhh

Atterbury Dodd · Aug 6, 2008

Nighthawk said:
Haha, I do see your side as well. I'm not trying to stir up trouble or anything.
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I apologize for jumping the gun prematurely! My brother has observed that "I'm just like that" (what's he know, he's a modern)

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Nighthawk · Aug 6, 2008

^ No apologies needed.

I guess something for all of us to consider is to simply avoid movies that we don't like, and let market forces determine films that will be made. The obvious conundrum is that how do you know if you will like a flim or not? Listening to friends or film critics is the obvious answer. Finding a good critic is another story (we could get into long discussons about the state of film criticism as well).

Nighthawk · Aug 6, 2008

jtcarrey said:
ah alright, after school then! We'll still be around hahaha unless Vintageland finally opens up.. then we'll all be there

You're on, I'm thinking about looking for jobs out in California after I graduate.

The Wingnut · Aug 6, 2008

Prior to the Hayes code, there was some pretty violent / racy stuff coming out of Hollywood and would likely have got as bad as we're seeing now if the Hayes code hadn't clamped down on it(not to advocate censorship or violence and smut, just for the record). There were plenty of bad movies back then, as well, we either don't know of them or haven't seen them due to the fact that the bad stuff usually doesn't withstand the test of time.

There's a thread here on the lounge that touches on the 'not so great' films of the era. Studios used to turn out a lot of budget junk that would get double featured all the time because they wouldn't be worth seeing on their own. Those in turn would provide the budget for the better stuff. Most films now take up to a few years from concept to screening, back then it was a matter of months with the lesser stuff, and it showed. A lot of those films are thankfully lost to oblivion. Studios were literally churning out films left and right, 'A', 'B' and 'C' grades, the B and C stuff paying the bills for the A stuff(hence the terms A- and B- list now).

I'll say this, there's a sense of over-commercialization and institutionalism now that didn't exist in the same manner during the time of the talkies, and it's a breath of fresh air to sit down with a lot of those films.

The Wingnut · Aug 6, 2008

Atterbury Dodd said:
I apologize for jumping the gun prematurely! My brother has observed that "I'm just like that" (what's he know, he's a modern) .

No, sir, you are a modern(e), he is a post-modern.

Charlie Noodles · Aug 6, 2008

jtcarrey said:
I'm so sick of all the violence in todays movies, and all the sex and drugs and partying. What happenned to the good old days when movies were glamourous and actually enjoyable to watch? Not just made to bring in some useless dough. If I was a millionaire, I would try and bring back old Hollywood, I would get real glamourous actors, beautiful sets, stunning clothing and real scripts and create film again with those old fashioned cameras.

fftopic: Someday I wish... maybe I'll just live in my own little dream world alone. Sorry I'm just pissed at how society is today, I refuse to buy clothes anymore, I only watch old movies (or disney haha), I listen to records and old music, read old 40's magazines on the train to work, I even talk old fashioned when I can, as soon as I can, I'm buying an old late 30's, early 40's car and all my kids will have old fashioned names, hurry for the past, nertz to this day and age!!

Nighthawk said:
^ No apologies needed.

I guess something for all of us to consider is to simply avoid movies that we don't like, and let market forces determine films that will be made.

Yes, market forces. Movies exist today because poor saps do enjoy them. Or at least enjoy the trailers enough to pay to see them. I've not seen any pre hayes code films but from what I've read here they didn't mind their sex and violence back then either.

Also, remember that a great deal of Disney is just bowdlerized versions of racier and much older tales. They didn't mind the sex and violence back THEN too.

It is not the modern world a lot of us rebel against. It is the real world of past, present and future.

Bring back old Hollywood!!

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