Flight jacket repair?

Senicko_Spain · Dec 9, 2008

Yeah, I am upset when you make off the cuff comments without investigating it is quite upsetting. ELC has always answered my emails in a very timely manner. This isn't because I do quite a bit of business with them, they were answering my emails this way since inception. libelous no, unprofessional yes.

johnnyjohnny said:
you sound uPset...is it really that easy to get your goat...

well then, my apologies

HoosierDaddy · Dec 9, 2008

It's just simple. If someone emails ELC several times and does not get an answer,especially when it is happening to others as well,then mentioning those experiences is certainly valid info whether someone else thinks they should keep their mouth shut or not. Belittling someone else's occurrences as suspect or not worth believing is what is actually absurd. Investigating? Hell,if I send several emails to a company using thier website addy,and don't get an answer,most likely it's time to move on to the next company,for sure.
Get over it. Hijacking a thread because the truth may hurt misses the point that it is an entirely different topic than just about you being "upset".
HD

John Lever · Dec 9, 2008

There must be a reason why the messages aren't answered. Gary is keen to do business and usually responds to questions within 48 hours. I think he travels away from the factory/office on business, so can't always answer questions immediately.
Could it be a spam issue ?
I know this doesn't help much, but they are only a small family firm.

HoosierDaddy · Dec 9, 2008

John Lever said:
There must be a reason why the messages aren't answered. Gary is keen to do business and usually responds to questions within 48 hours. I think he travels away from the factory/office on business, so can't always answer questions immediately.
Could it be a spam issue ?
I know this doesn't help much, but they are only a small family firm.

John
If I remember correctly,some of the reason was addressed on the VLJ. I do seem to recall that it was said that Gary was away for awhile. It was most likely an anomaly for a certain period of time. However,those who didn't get answered email,well,just didn't get their email answered. I suppose,if it happens in the future,one could just assume that no one is available..or just try giving Eastman a phone call.
HD

John Lever · Dec 9, 2008

Yes, I agree. In a sense it is a type of 'poor service ', but I think Gary can be forgiven as it's a very small operation down there in deepest Devon. I wonder if cider has anything to do with it ?
I have just sent a message to Gary. It was returned because of a delivery failure. There are obviously problems with his mail.

Try this one -
alan@eastmanleather.com
Gary gets so much mail, his inbox is often full.

Senicko_Spain · Dec 9, 2008

You see, it's not a conspiracy it could actually be some sort of an email problem or something else. Some think because I "senicko" criticize someone then I must automatically be attacking based on zero reason and bias. Hmmm, guess maybe not. AnYWAy get your proverbial Edited- feet in one sock before these sort of things get out of hand and businesses get accused of wrongdoings.

ethanedwards · Dec 9, 2008

Senicko_Spain said:
You see, it's not a conspiracy it could actually be some sort of an email problem or something else. Some think because I "senicko" criticize someone then I must automatically be attacking based on zero reason and bias. Hmmm, guess maybe not. AnYWAy get your proverbial Edited - feet in one sock before these sort of things get out of hand and businesses get accused of wrongdoings.

You silver-tongued devil you................

johnnyjohnny · Dec 9, 2008

deeper problems

thanks John and Hoosier for your info...

i think i made it clear that i respected tremendously elc's work, but simply related what happened to me in not having emails answered

tHiS has nothing to do with the type of, honestly, impolite postings i have seen here many times, and above been the object of

this is not criticism, and it does not reflect on me at all...it reflects on an individual who cannot express themself in any but hostile and often offensive ways

i don't dislike anyone for doing this...we are all learning how to be better all the time, but it is very clear this kind of self expression is a sign of other problems or issues...

no one consciously expresses themselves the way i have seen above in this post (and in other posts at times with others as the target) unless they have some sort of problem or issue involving themself, as opposed to the object of their 'wrath'

i'd recommend to people who cannot say much without belittling others, that they give themselves a break...such embarrassing rants do not reflect badly on the target of the rant, but rather on the individual making the rant

some people can tell others difficult things, and frame them so they are not offensive...

others discuss often inconsequential things and do so in an offensive and ugly fashion

i'd suggest that, for your own self more than anyone else, you learn how to express yourself in a fashion becoming someone of decency and concern for others

DavidVillaJr · Dec 10, 2008

...all I wanted was a Pepsi.....

dv

DBLIII · Dec 10, 2008

Well, I just bought an Aero A-2 from a private seller, the jacket is about year 2000 with the red silk (?) lining. He didn't bother to tell me that the lining around the collar has multiple holes in it. So, I paid too much and now want to get this repaired - and cannot afford sending the jacket to Scotland.
Guess I'll look for a local tailor. This thread has drifted a lot from its topic.

HoosierDaddy · Dec 10, 2008

DBLIII said:
Well, I just bought an Aero A-2 from a private seller, the jacket is about year 2000 with the red silk (?) lining. He didn't bother to tell me that the lining around the collar has multiple holes in it. So, I paid too much and now want to get this repaired - and cannot afford sending the jacket to Scotland.
Guess I'll look for a local tailor. This thread has drifted a lot from its topic.

I wish that I could help. At one time FlightSuits/Gibson&Barnes did exellent work repairing jackets,but have discontinued that sevice. I think many of us stateside have the same dilemma. Professional repair is offered by Eastman and Aero where a local tailor is always taking a chance. However,it's not really a difficult job for a tailor to replace knits. I do think Gibson&Barnes still sells 100% wool knit replacements.
The red spun silk Aero liner holes could be sewn shut fairly easy to help with that problem. The only other recourse would be to replace the lining with something else by a tailor who is familiar with that process.
HD

Senicko_Spain · Dec 10, 2008

i'd suggest that, for your own self more than anyone else, you learn how to express yourself in a fashion becoming someone of decency and concern for others

WeLL, Ok...I'lL KEEp thAt in MINd nExt tiMe. ThANKS for youR suGGestioN.

:fing28:ThaTS aLL:fing28:

H.Johnson · Dec 10, 2008

Just to add that Amanda tells me that Aero have a big backlog repair orders at the moment - she advises not to send anything until after Hogmanay, or The Holidays as I believe some people call it.

HoosierDaddy said:
<Snip>Professional repair is offered by Eastman and Aero where a local tailor is always taking a chance. However,it's not really a difficult job for a tailor to replace knits <Snip>.
HD

Senicko_Spain · Dec 10, 2008

I wish that I could help.

lol

ethanedwards · Dec 10, 2008

Wotzis

http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=34142

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kojax · Dec 10, 2008

i just got my a-2 back from gibson barnes replaced the waisetband and cuffs nice job......i buy my jackets there no chagre just 15.00 dollars for the shipping not a bad deal..........that one was free yippy**

Rufus · Dec 10, 2008

I've had Aero mend a number of vintage civvie jackets, and they did a great job, and are excellent communicators.
It may not be the cheapest option, but if you want a good job, on a jacket you'll get wear out of, then it may be a worthwhile investment.

I've had relines, new zips, cuffs, leather repair and mouton collars replaced by them, and they did a great job, as well as eing a pleasure to deal with. Amanda is exceptionally helpful, friendly and quick to get back to you.

I've never used Eastmans, although know others who have, and all have been extremely pleased by the results. (Eastmans specialise in military jackets, and I mainly collect civvie jackets)

H.Johnson · Dec 10, 2008

Having used both, I don't think personally that there's much to choose between Aero and Eastman in terms of the quality of their repair work, and their prices are similar. The turnaround time of each depends on their current workload.

Best of all (in my experience) is Stephen Silburn, but you have to be patient as he works alone and is very much in demand for museum-quality restoration and repairs. .

Senicko_Spain · Dec 10, 2008

If you read the entire thread it explains that the email keep getting returned, not that they weren't getting answered. Is that the best you can do? That all.

ethanedwards said:
http://www.thefedoralounge.com/showthread.php?t=34142

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DBLIII · Dec 10, 2008

HoosierDaddy said:
The red spun silk Aero liner holes could be sewn shut fairly easy to help with that problem. The only other recourse would be to replace the lining with something else by a tailor who is familiar with that process.
HD

Thank you! I honestly never thought of just sewing the holes shut - which would be a perfect solution for me.

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