A 7X CB Fedora, presented to Brooke Moore in 1951. Stars on the crest, no squiggles on the sweatband crest, and a 50s-ish white reorder tag. It’s a nice, deep gray closest to the pic with the $20 bill ; )
Dated by retirement certificate.
It‘s been a while since I picked up a hat, but this 7X Clear Beaver was too hard to resist. It’s one of the retirement hats that pop up once in a blue moon, a rare non-western 7X.
It’s on the way…
There is definitely squiggly line overlap and the darn things appear and disappear. They are just one of many indicators. For sure they at least began disappearing there in the mid/late 40s.
I think you are perfectly safe saying the indicators show this to be an early or mid 40s hat.
Every...
Great catch! With the 1938 first use in commerce date, post the sweatband lot number over on Alan’s thread. It’s a great marker.
https://www.thefedoralounge.com/threads/stetson-intellectual-property-data.101506/page-2
I love those last drop 3Xs without liner covers, but the sweatbands from that era just did not stand the test of time. I believe they are either split grain leather or some new substitute, but either way they just disintegrate.
“Royal Stetson DeLuxe“ hats are pre-“Royal DeLuxe Stetsons“. The window for the RSD is very small and somewhere close to 46-47.
I looked into this a while back but forgot my exact conclusions, but I remember we’ve seen one RDS with a Vitafelt stamp - Alan has it. The very end of the Vitafelt...
Ken,
Since we’re going over a lot of Stetsons, I’ll add to what you already seem to have discovered:
First, work your way to a pre-50s 7X Clear Beaver. No plastic on the liner. These are very hard to find, but they are a start point or standard of comparison for the holy grail hats.
Since you...
I think the ribbon and dates eliminate the Open Road. Over at the Open Road Guild, James Powers dates the introduction of the “classic” model to 1946.
The thread is 191 pages. I’ll poke around a little, but maybe someone has a more concrete reference?
Your first digit could be off. Is it clearer than the pic indicates? An unsewn sweatband usually indicative of pre-30s. 30s hats also usually have a roundel. All those are just pieces, the stamp #s have started to look more accurate over time.
*I’d also be interested to note how many 1900...
Somewhere on here there is a link to and image of a 50s Sovereign owned by Oppenheimer. Thats definitely not his iconic hat.
There is also a lot of speculation stating his hat was an Open Road, that could be true, although I don’t think we have evidence of when the Open Road changed over to...
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