3 Borsalinos: Pocket, Light, and Feather

Discussion in 'Hats' started by feltfan, Aug 2, 2006.

  1. feltfan

    feltfan My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Hi All,

    As long as we're posting Borsalinos, here are three that
    seem to me different from some of the ones people are posting.

    The first carried the designation "Pocket Hat" on the sweat.
    Sadly I had to have the sweat replaced because it was crumbling.
    I sent it to Optimo for a new sweat, a stretching to my size (it was
    a touch small) and a cleaning. I asked Graham to send this one back
    open crown. He went on at some length about the awesome quality
    of this felt and said it really bothers him when people put in a top dent
    that isn't straight. It arrived with a top dent- he couldn't bear to
    think that I would put in the wrong dent. I thought it was pretty
    funny. This may be the nicest piece of felt I own. Qualita Extra Extra
    Superiore.

    The picture is not ideal- apologies for the flash reflection:

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    Here's my attempt at snapping the liner logo:

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    The next hat on our tour is the Lightweight. I've had this one
    for many years (and it could use a cleaning!). I'll horrify you all
    by saying I removed the wind trolley. It has an unusual bow, a lot
    like the one on my Adam Executive, but I was too lame to snap
    it from that angle. Note the "Cavanagh Edge".

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    Don't know if it ever had a lining. It doesn't now. Great stamps
    on the sweat, though:

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    Finally, here is the Featherweight. I may add this to the thread
    on verifiable Borsalinos (with Visigoth's blessing) because the guy
    I bought it from claimed to be the original owner and said he bought
    it in 1955 (and kept it in his closet). It was rolled when I got it,
    apparently for around 50 years:

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    That rolled picture might give you the best idea of the color.
    Anyway, the thing popped back into shape happily, and does so
    every time. It's a great travel hat.

    The felt is unbelievably thin and strong. Really unbelievable.
    Here it is with flash:

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    Here it is without:

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    Yes, it pops into a nice C-crown. It's hard to tell scale, but
    that edge binding is the narrowest I've ever seen. Very fine work.

    Here's the sweat (note "Alessandria" on the liner):

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    And finally my sorry attempt to photograph the liner:

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    "Qualita Suprema". It's kinda small- not the biggest crown. It is
    clearly meant as a travel hat- of the first caliber.

    Here's a goofy picture wearing it in NYC:

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    That's all for now. Enjoy.
     
  2. DOUGLAS

    DOUGLAS My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    WOW,WOW Those are tremendous,what a great selection. I love the gray light weight. Thanks for the show!
     
  3. Beautiful and informative! Thanks so much for sharing your discoveries with us!

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  4. Razzman

    Razzman One Too Many

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    Beautiful Borsalino's. I particularly like the first one, the pocket hat. Great color.
     
  5. Johnnysan

    Johnnysan One Too Many

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    Very nice...we need a "green with envy" emoticon!
     
  6. DanielJones

    DanielJones I'll Lock Up

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    Very nice Feltfan! Great collection indeed.:eusa_clap
    Love the featherweight travel hat.

    Cheers!

    Dan
     
  7. Mojave Jack

    Mojave Jack One Too Many

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    That featherweight is amazing! I can't believe it could be rolled for so long and still pop back into shape. And not just look OK, but look great. I look forward to the day I get a hat like that.
     
  8. Visigoth

    Visigoth A-List Customer

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    Stunning -- all of them.

    And that travel hat lends credence to the notion that this plasticated liner really is from the fifties. What is the serial number on that hat?
     
  9. feltfan

    feltfan My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Glad everyone is enjoying these lids

    Razzman, the color on that pocket hat is a touch
    darker- classic deep chocolate and so rich. Those
    colors are part of what makes vintage hats more
    appealing than modern. It's not just that they used
    dyes that (for good reason) aren't used anymore,
    though they were grand colors and that's reason enough.
    But also we get to pick and choose many decades of
    styles at once.

    Johnnysan, I haven't posted my green Borsalino yet!

    Mojave Jack, in those photos I unrolled the hat and shot
    it- no steam. I did apply a bit of steam when I first unrolled
    the hat, but it didn't really need it! I have had to darn the
    bow- that seems to be where it gets the most stress.

    Visigoth, plasticated? Is that kind of like when Popeye
    says "disgustipated"? ;) No idea what that stuff is.
    I have the hat open with the sweat
    up and these numbers appear: 3L571 11504 F
    Size is 6 1/2 (and someone wrote under that 38 1/2)
    and this word appears: Dolfosan. On the other side of
    the sweat is a tag that could be the original price and
    appears to be 5500 (lire one assumes). What do those
    numbers tell you? Anyone know what Dolfosan might mean?
     
  10. ideaguy

    ideaguy One Too Many

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    seeing those great hats takes the heat off me trying to buy a lesser hat;
    thanks -genuinely- for the education and attitude adjustment. Think
    I'll save those photos as examples of great Borsalinos', with your permission?
    M:eusa_clap
     
  11. besdor

    besdor Vendor/Sponsor

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    I would love to show those hats to the production dept of Borsalino on my next trip to Italy. There is no way those hats could ever be reproduced today . Enjoy those hats !!!


    Steven
    www.bencrafthats.com
     
  12. Atomic Glee

    Atomic Glee Practically Family

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    Fantastic hats! I especially love the first one.
     
  13. Dayonfire

    Dayonfire New in Town

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    Featherweight Travel Hat

    Wow. Really love that C-Crown travel featherweight.

    Can anyone tell me where I can find such a hat. I desperately need such a fine looking lid for traveling.

    Thanks.
     
  14. deanglen

    deanglen My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Now those are the type of fedoras I will buy when I begin to collect them, if "congress";) approves the funding.
    But since I won't be able to afford or probably acquire vintage Borsalinos, what is the nearest type in look and accessability to the austerity plan I operate with?
     
  15. havershaw

    havershaw Practically Family

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    oh, you are a lucky man.
     
  16. feltfan

    feltfan My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Set your time machine for 1955... or keep searching eBay and
    your local fleamarkets.

    deanglen, there are still bargains to be had in big names
    in hat history. Just keep your eyes peeled. Hopefully your
    head is smaller than mine.
     
  17. deanglen

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    Of the four I'd rank them in descending order of preference like this:

    FIRST- The Light Brown, golden rust ribbon. (any guesses why?)

    SECOND-The Black, of course.(I'm a pastor, I wear black a lot, and that hat
    would top off my clerical outfit grandly!)

    THIRD- The Grey (Mainly because I prefer clarity in all things!lol Grey smacks
    of ambiguity. This rational is admittedly weak.)

    FOURTH-The Tan with dark ribbon. Would have preferred a different ribbon color and bow (see other posts for bow style I'd prefer)
     
  18. feltfan

    feltfan My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    This is not a coincidence. Care to guess what
    the original owner was studying in Rome when he
    bought the hat? I believe he intended to complement
    a black outfit himself.
     
  19. deanglen

    deanglen My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    I'm a Lutheran (LC-MS), and I'm sure he would appreciate the irony of my liking a hat he wore as he studied the Summa Theologica.lol
     
  20. Mr. 'H'

    Mr. 'H' Call Me a Cab

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    They are great hats Feltfan, wear them in good health!

    :eusa_clap
     

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