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*** and Suits
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Feraud
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Thanks for that. It looks like a good read.
Scott Wood
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:arated: have already cleared a spot on my bookshelf,Feraud said:
Woody
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Thanks! Looks like a good read.
filfoster
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Forbidden Suit Fruit
I thought it said "*** with Suits". Still interested.
I thought it said "*** with Suits". Still interested.
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Scott Wood
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Is it like strip "Bridge"?[huh]filfoster said:
lol
filfoster
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Lay 'em down
probably less finesse; but bridge is safer: it has a 'rubber'.
Scott Wood said:
probably less finesse; but bridge is safer: it has a 'rubber'.
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:eusa_clap lolfilfoster said:
Dr Doran
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Excellent book. I first read it about 4 years ago and was very impressed.
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It's a gloss - a survey - but a perceptive one, and probably a unique one. Even at this late date, it's still not quite the Done Thing to treat men's and women's clothing as equals in cultural meaning.
Hollander has a very telling point about the 30s being an era of graceful simplicity - clothes that moved well and took on pleasing poses and attitudes. She's a little offbase about "the postwar era" all being uniform, though. Women had to come to terms with the New Look and men the Bold - both of which passed pretty quickly.
After that, she's right, there was a conformism, and individuality "lost caste." But first, we had to shed some of the elegance of the 30s. I think it looked a little too much to Europe, and to old centers of power - which now meant military and bodily power, not just financial and political power as before.
Marlene Dietrich, 1932.
Not a tomboy, and this is not drag - she's fully and desirably female in these man's clothes.
Not too many women could pull that off. Not even Katharine Hepburn, I don't think, not like this.
Men and women could take a cue from her in sureness and style. I think they still can.
Hollander has a very telling point about the 30s being an era of graceful simplicity - clothes that moved well and took on pleasing poses and attitudes. She's a little offbase about "the postwar era" all being uniform, though. Women had to come to terms with the New Look and men the Bold - both of which passed pretty quickly.
After that, she's right, there was a conformism, and individuality "lost caste." But first, we had to shed some of the elegance of the 30s. I think it looked a little too much to Europe, and to old centers of power - which now meant military and bodily power, not just financial and political power as before.
Marlene Dietrich, 1932.
Not a tomboy, and this is not drag - she's fully and desirably female in these man's clothes.
Not too many women could pull that off. Not even Katharine Hepburn, I don't think, not like this.
Men and women could take a cue from her in sureness and style. I think they still can.
BinkieBaumont
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Marlene Dietrich, 1932.
Not a tomboy, and this is not drag - she's fully and desirably female in these man's clothes.
Not too many women could pull that off. Not even Katharine Hepburn, I don't think, not like this.
Men and women could take a cue from her in sureness and style. I think they still can.[/QUOTE]
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