B-Beautiful in a B-10..! (The ultimate American Beauty cloth flight wear)

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by PADDY, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk One of the Regulars

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    ^ No problem. Just FYI Buzz Rickson's US sales are handled through HPA at http://www.historypreservation.com/


    I am actually kind of intrigued by the black offerings by Buzz. I also imagine that they'll do a black A-2 eventually as well, something already offered by Lost Worlds. Looks fairly classy, IMO. [huh] I'm not sure how a B-10 would look, though.

    As an aside, I've read that during Vietnam a lot of guys in special operations groups dyed all of their clothing (from their jackets to their underwear) black.

    EDIT: thanks for the pic, Burnsie. Was that from last season's collection?

    NH
     
  2. Burnsie

    Burnsie Registered User

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    Yes, 2007 - pretty tough looking even if not 100% authentic!
     
  3. Hawk_Eye

    Hawk_Eye One of the Regulars

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    Someone on VLJ said it best on the black Buzz B-10, it looks more like a mall security guards jacket, and its lost alot of its charm.
     
  4. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk One of the Regulars

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    You realize over at VLJ they'd be saying the same thing if the jackets were originally black, and the William Gibson collection was olive. :p
     
  5. fishmeok

    fishmeok Vendor

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    Yeah, well, I said that, and I stand by that statement. The black color just washes out too many of the details that make a B-10 distinctive. Fine for some, but not me.
    Cheers
    Mark
     
  6. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk One of the Regulars

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    ^ I can respect that. I do see what you mean about the details. I think that they may look better close up, but as I've never handled one I can't vouch for this.

    To each his own. :cheers1:

    NH
     
  7. lt508th

    lt508th New in Town

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    Question for the jacket pros

    Pardon my ignorance, but in this thread you gents keep referring to Gina at HPA. What is HPA? Do they have a website or other contact information? Thanks in advance. ~ Tim
     
  8. Burnsie

    Burnsie Registered User

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    History Preservation Associates
    http://historypreservation.com/hpassociates/index.html
     
  9. lt508th

    lt508th New in Town

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    HPA Information

    Thanks for the promprt reply! ~ Tim
     
  10. bbc1969

    bbc1969 Familiar Face

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  11. greyhound68

    greyhound68 A-List Customer

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    If you want a real B-10 don't bother with the Pike one. It in no way compares to the Buzz or ELC model. Save your money and go with one of them. Had a BR, ELC, and RMJ and each was excellent just didn't like the fit of the B-10 on me and was attracted by other jackets.
     
  12. bbc1969

    bbc1969 Familiar Face

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    Thanks for the info. I think I will most likely have to look at the Aero, or the Eastman Roughwear. I will need at least a 48 or 50 and Buzz R. just does not seem to be geared towards the larger framed person.

    What is frustrating is even if I lost 15 lbs of gut, I would still need these sizes due to my shoulder area......
     
  13. DustMite

    DustMite New in Town

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    Which B-10 should I buy ????

    Looking at buying a decent B-10 flight jacket. Cant afford the Eastmans one, although very nice, the only other 2 within easy reach, are the Aero B-10 and the Pike B-10. So which is best, Aero or Pike Brothers ? Would like to hear peoples thoughts on quality and warmth, value for money etc. I know turn around is very slow at the moment, arn't they all...... many thanks ;)

    Also, where do I get those water slide USAAF decals from ????
     
  14. PADDY

    PADDY I'll Lock Up Bartender

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    Merged (Bartender Edit)

    For better referencing, help and advice.
     
  15. DustMite

    DustMite New in Town

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    Moved me

    Having just been moved to this thread, which I did not find on the search, I think, by reading down all the replys, that Pike Bros. should be avoided. Is this correct. :p
     
  16. fishmeok

    fishmeok Vendor

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    Not necessarily- The Pike jacket is a decent repop with a good shell and liner. Biggest problem is the oversize arms and knits. Nothing that can't be fixed.
    Cheers
    Mark
     
  17. Fletch

    Fletch I'll Lock Up

    Surely not as warm as one with a full-thickness alpaca liner!
     
  18. DustMite

    DustMite New in Town

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    Transfer

    What about the USAAF transfer on the shoulder. The water slides wont work on cloth, where can I get some transfers for cloth, and will they be iron on?

    cheers
     
  19. DustMite

    DustMite New in Town

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    Warmer

    So which is warmer then Pike or Aero ?

    What about colour. The Expensive Eastmans is quite light khaki shade, were as the Pike and Aero are quite green in colour. does this fade. I would like to know before forking out £200 mail order, on a jacket I have not actually seen.
     
  20. bbc1969

    bbc1969 Familiar Face

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    Have you considered the Buzz Rickson? I believe they are priced a bit lower than the Eastman Roughwear B-10.

    I too had considered the Pike and Aero. I ended up deciding just to save my milk money a couple more months and go with the Eastman. I will admit this was easier to justify in my mind from this side of the pond with the current exchange rate trend.

    Having said that, I was going to go with the Aero. I was not thrilled with some of the reviews of the outershell, and personally thought the pockets looked placed a bit high.

    But my understanding is that the alpaca lining is top notch, and the quality and finish are Aero's usual excellent.

    If I was going to go with a Pike or and Aero, and not really want to mess with tailoring, my opinion is go with the Aero.

    I think one of the fine folks here compared an Aero to a SM Coat a couple pages back in the thread. While not a Pike, it does discuss many of the Aero's good and bad points........
     

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