This Churchill Canadian beauty in jet black is an interesting one. The accepted definition of a Lord's Hat is a homburg style without brim binding. Formal looking for daily wear. Probably a more recent vintage, hard to tell, maybe 60s or 70s. Brim curl is over 2", crown 4 3/4. Center dent with some pinches to give it a more relaxed look. Great felt, super smooth and supple. Classy. Too many Homburgs in the hat room, this one definitely needs a new home. No hat box, letting this one go for what I paid - $65 shipped.