I was watching HOT network, one of the free airwave TV channels that the digital switchover provided. They show old TV shows and THE LAWLESS YEARS came on. Burt Reynolds as a very young thug in a very high crown center dent mid-ribbon bound edge of about 2 3/8 brim I'd say. It is in black and white but it looked mid-lighter gray and the ribbon and binding looked silver-gray. WOW. Several other nice lids. Wardrobe staff did a good job on that one, the suits and the ladies' dresses were great too.