Fit question

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by jadub, Jul 9, 2021.

  1. jadub

    jadub One of the Regulars

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    Mmm, good to keep in mind. Thank you. Yours was one of the voices I heard the loudest when I was thinking about moving my PHWM on. It’s relaxing and feeling more comfortable but it’s not how I want all my jackets to feel. This thread is to help me broaden my knowledge about what I should think about for my next purchase and I really appreciate peoples input so thank you.
     
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  2. jadub

    jadub One of the Regulars

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    On a side note. Do people here recommend Tanakas books? I don’t ride anymore so I don’t have the interest in leather riding jackets that some may have, though I do wish I had my Langlitz back. God I loved that thing. I’m interested in the leather and manufacture of quality jackets more than the style.
     
  3. Canuck Panda

    Canuck Panda Practically Family

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    What Monitor said about style matter more than P2P measurements. Also check out Carlos database thread, I have it in my browser bookmark list.
    Sorry it came out wrong from me. What I meant was that the feel of quality of CXL is one of the main reason why I keep buying Aeros, even when they are not the most comfortable to wear everyday.
    I also have Shinki Aniline and Vicenza. They cost more than CXL but to me, all three are playing at the same quality level. Some would rate them higher and lower, but to me, 3/4oz horsehide aniline finish is 3/4oz horsehide aniline finish, there is no real better or worse. In a blind test only the CXL will stick out because it has a lot more oil and waxes. And once the new Shinki smell has faded it will not smell any different than the Vicenza. So yeah, I felt dumb after having paid more for the latter two from different makers, but that’s the journey of this hobby.
    And about Sheepskin: It has been rated much less than what it is, but in my experience it is NOT any less than the horses or the steers. It is THICK, SOFT, and has depth, just like the others.
    What I meant to say that is your PHWM looks as good as it can get, instead of trying to tweak the Aero pattern to fit you, accept it for what it is and live with it until you find your next jacket from a different maker with a different fit.
     
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  4. jadub

    jadub One of the Regulars

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    Ah, I thought there may be a miscommunication. Thank you for the clarification. What you said “accept it as it is” is just what I’m doing. It’s a good jacket and I’ll likely have it for a long time.
    I think some time ago I did see Carlos's post about the database he’s developing. Thanks for reminding me. I need to revisit that. Another epic collection for sure with detailed specs. Can’t beat that.
     
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  5. jadub

    jadub One of the Regulars

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    I was just scanning back over this thread. Thank you all for the input. This is a great group and I really enjoy having this little community of nutters to talk leather with. Long live our stupid hobby!!!
     
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  6. Bfd70

    Bfd70 Call Me a Cab

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    That burgundy d pocket though! Hot damn that’s a good looking jacket.
     
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  7. Marc mndt

    Marc mndt My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    I wonder why Aero hasn't updated (upgraded) their patterns over the years. Anyone who has owned a Vanson, Lewis Leathers, Thedi (or even a fashion jacket) or what have you will agree that those patterns are much more comfortable than Aero's patterns.
     
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  8. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    Why would they if there is no incentive? Everything is selling just fine, and orders are coming in. I really want to love their jackets, but after owning several I’ve moved on. I believe my Premier Highwayman in CXL was the pinnacle of their work, and I’ve experienced that already.
     
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  9. Canuck Panda

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    Burgundy CXL is awesome. It’s deep brown most of the time, but shines through with color change when light changes. Horween did an excellent job!


    I doubt they will change it. Their customers like me, would still buy just to get some CXL, and they know it. Partnering up with CXL leather is their one two punch, and until someone else offers the CXL full range, I doubt they will change anything.
     
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  10. Marc mndt

    Marc mndt My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    In my work, I try to be better at what I do every day. I'm better now than I was one year ago. Same should hold for companies right? Imagine a car manufacturer not improving their products. Some day they will become obsolete.
     
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  11. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    I think they have a different mentality...based on Ken’s patterns. Change only comes in a time of crisis. The last time things were updated was when Denny and Holly joined the team. Before that, it was when Ken came back in 2011.
    They would need someone from “outside” to come in to mix things up and re-do the offerings... like when Tom Ford stepped in at Gucci.
     
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  12. Marc mndt

    Marc mndt My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    I know...but the tradition argument (as in "our jackets are based on jackets from the 30s / 40s / 50s") is bs imo. I own several leather jackets from the 30s/40s/50s. All of them have much better patterns.
     
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  13. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    “Tradition” means Ken’s original patterns. Everything is cut and paste on their A2, Highwayman, 50s, 20s or 30s block. The details are all inter-changed.
     
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