Five Star Leather Jackets

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  1. Canuck Panda

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    The Horween/Aero Natural CXL feels sandy too. But I am more anxious about how Shawn's CXL will actual show the pull up effect. I am hoping it will have multi tone color variations like the Horween. Fingers crossed.
     
  2. FL2021

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    Maybe the Pattern, Hopefully one of the more Senior Members can fill us in. I would't think 25cm or 10inches in Diametre is out of line.
     
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  3. Grasp loo paper

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    Well here are some pictures if I believe it’s multi toned
     

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  4. Dionysus

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    5star has zero knowledge about the pattern that allows arm movement, and now they are launching the thicker leather .....
     
  5. MrProper

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    I like it very much. Much better than the sloppy Cossacks.
    I almost have to think about whether I have to be a bit more generous with this leather with my measurements. Actually, I assume that my standard dimensions + 5mm should also fit, since the leather is "only" 0.5mm thicker than my usual mid-weight leather. But if it's very stiff, maybe more is needed?


    What exactly makes your opinion?
    I'm not exactly the specialist, but I claim that jackets from 5* are in no way inferior to other manufacturers in terms of fit. In fact, I would say that my most comfortable leather jackets are from 5*.

    In my opinion, a jacket moves a lot upwards when the interplay between shoulder width, armhole and P2P is not right. Pointed shoulders add to the problem.
     
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  6. Canuck Panda

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  7. Riu

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    Looking great! I'm sure more qualified people know more about this but maybe a smaller armhole could help with that? How does the leather feel?
     
  8. Grasp loo paper

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    The leather feels good, softer than the goat, but I still think it can become softer. It’s very thick, when I fold my arms my elbows hurt a little. Overall it’s very nice leather. If I can get the a little more mobility from the arms by breaking it in, I’d be perfect! I regret not making the waist tighter though don’t like the boxy belly.
     
  9. Riu

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    Looks fine to me, I hope it will feel more comfortable after it will mould around your body a bit more, I'm also curious how it will look after some rain and wear. Congrats and enjoy it :)
     
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  10. navetsea

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    your measurement seems close to my size,
    but my armhole in that size is 19cm (38cm around) or 20cm (40cm around) and don't add to much on the chest if you are 96cm around chest I think between 100cm or 104cm on the jacket is maximum, seems your problem is that your arm hole is too low and the chest is roomy, so rather than forcing the sleeve to crease up as you lift your arm, the whole jacket rather move up since it has less resistance to do that, eventually it will settle once broken in, try to wear backpack on top of the jacket, wet your upper sleeve and lift your arm up and down several time, do swimming arm movement, driving movement while the sleeve is wet to make the jacket's sleeve learn where to crease without lifting the whole body up.
     
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  11. MrProper

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    I once had fun taking pictures of some of my jackets while raising my arms.
    As you can see, there is no jacket that doesn't raise the hem at least a little. Only the one with the football on her armpits hardly moves at all.
    By the way, the jeans are low rise.
    For me, this freedom of movement fits perfectly, because I tend to never walk around with my arms stretched to the side or forward. The exception might be a zombie walk.

    5* Cossack, pointy shoulders
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    5* Cafe Racer, rounded shoulders
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    Aero Sheene
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  12. MrProper

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    Aero Ridley

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    5* Trucker Deerskin, rounded shoulders
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    5* Flight Jacket, pointy shoulders, football gussets (btw my first 5*)
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  13. MrProper

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    Field Leathers, very pointy shoulders
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    5* Trucker (missing photo with normal position, but it's similar to my other 5* trucker
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  14. navetsea

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    cool vest, I think either make the patch pocket a little bit smaller so the edges not covering the brown leather edge or have the patch canvas pocket sandwiched under that brown edge trim.
     
  15. MrProper

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    You're absolutely right ... if the pockets were made of canvas. Unfortunately, as far as I know, Shawn doesn't have a heavy canvas, Just the heavy cotton drill and that doesn't satisfy me.
    So my idea is to use the seal-colored steerhide instead of canvas.
    With canvas bags for me it would looks so:
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  16. Riu

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    I've asked him about the canvas too, the only way to have it done is to provide him the fabric.
     
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  17. Hh121

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    That is very helpful @MrProper, in some pictures I can see no difference between rounded shoulder and pointy shoulder, it looks same, can you enlighten me what exactly is rounded shoulder?
    Vanson B has pointy shoulder but won't bunch up when raising your arm from side.
     
  18. Grasp loo paper

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    Thank you for the in-depth explanation, the combination of Chest & low armhole might have added to the problem, driving is difficult with it.
    How do you determine your armhole size? Also anyway I can try to fix this jacket?
     
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  19. Carlos840

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    I'm not sure how helpful this is...
    You are basically comparing a bunch of jackets with poor mobility trying to figure out which is best.
    Aero has IMO horrible patterns as far as mobility is concerned, FL patterns suffer from similar issues, and 5 Star can be all over the place.
    IMO it's a bit like comparing McDonalds, Burger King and Wendy's looking for the best burger, odds are you are not going to find it there...

    If you took the same pics comparing a Langlitz Columbia, a Lewis MkII and a Vanson Model E you would see basically no movement of the jacket when changing position as these jackets have patterns designed for free movement.
     
  20. navetsea

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    just using measurement tape around my shoulder under my arm, slide in a finger or two for extra space.
    just break it in so the upper sleeve is softer and will crease there first as you lift your arm, if we are talking real fix then probably underarm gusset/ football as it raise your underarm and add extra expansion panel there, rotating the sleeve forward a few degree also helps a lot. pattern wise, I think for a jacket without gusset the lower back need to have some space to make your forward arm movement unhindered, if you taper the lower back too close to your spine, while the jacket will look neater viewed from behind, but it will limit forward rotation of your arm.
     
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