I got these second hand, just don't need them. I believe these are them, new: https://www.instagram.com/p/CHzxWlLDAw9/ Then this person wore them briefly, they were too small: https://www.instagram.com/p/CHNnydKjvfe/ Here are current photos: They fit like a 9D I'd say. I wear a 9 in John Lofgren engineers. SOLD