German & Austrian Hutmachers

Discussion in 'Hats' started by mayserwegener, Sep 1, 2008.

  1. mayserwegener

    mayserwegener

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    Thank you! Mayser was definitely good at it. :)
     
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  2. steur

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    Yup, all of those things. Superb is a good name for it.
     
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  3. mayserwegener

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    Stefan, Thank you!
     
  4. Chepstow

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    Steve, congrats to the bunch of new hats. All looking Fine on you.

    Steve, superbe Mayser find. A really black beauty,


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  5. Daniele Tanto

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    Emerging from my summer slumber, the temperatures are these days of 36-37 Celsius, with a new purchase
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    Huckel Chevreau size 59, well preserved, except the ribbon which has small spots
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    The hat is in perfect German tradition, very well done and with quality finishes.
    It is a classic of the 60s German hats production
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    My dating is very empirical, but certainly my friend Steve (owner of a Huckel mine of the same type:)) will know how to give him an age and something else to complete the information framework
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    It was sold in Mulheim in the Ruhr, under the Huckel brand on the sweatband there is indicated that it is waterproof.
    The dimensions are: open crown at 13 centimeters, ribbon at 4.5 and brim. edged and finished with a seam, they are 6.5 cm. The felt is of medium consistency and suede finished
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    Meanwhile, settle for this, as soon as it is a little cooler you will have the contents of the two boxes coming from the Netherlands, now it's too hot. Be patient;)
     
  6. Chepstow

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    A classic Daniele and beautiful too!
    Congrats to this wonderful find.


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  7. Garrett

    Garrett My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Deal of the week ($32 on Etsy)

    Circa 1950's JHS "Jota" Velour in black. Originally made for Dunn & Co. of London. More photos once it arrives from England.



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  8. Steve1857

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    Super find, Garret. Congrats.

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  9. mayserwegener

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    Garrett, Super! If it's a Tonak it's very early or from old stock because it has a JHS label.
     
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  10. mayserwegener

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    Daniele, Fantastic! It could be early 1960s or later 1950s. My guess would be late 1950s. I am not sure how water proof but they did make that statement. :)
     
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  11. mayserwegener

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    Manfred, Thanks!
     
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  12. Garrett

    Garrett My Mail is Forwarded Here

    Steve I was hoping you would chime in with a guess on the dating. I was guessing 50s because the “GA” of Dunn and company is missing which I thought happened sometime in the late 30s early 40s. Do you think this JHS could be from just prior to the war?
     
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  13. Steve1857

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    Garrett and Steve, just my surmise, but I think this is a pre-war JHS made velour ca. 1930s. It could well have been sold at the Dunn & Co shop in London around about the late 30s and early 40s, and due to the war still have been there after 1945.

    I can't see it as being made post war by Tonak for a 1950s English hat market.




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  14. mayserwegener

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    Steve, Tonak made hats for Dunn & Co. after WWII. Here are some examples.

    https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/198-g-a-dunn-co-austrian-velour-made-by-tonak/

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  15. mayserwegener

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    Garrett, The paper label points to JHS but the sweatband looks more like Tonak. I guess it's possible it was made from old JHS stock. The JHS to Tonak transition period after WWII is not clear.

    I have some JHS historical information leading up to WWII and post WWII. Same with the Tonak transition but I have no idea how accurate it is. It's also not very detailed.
     
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  16. mayserwegener

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    "Bellona", 58 cm, Back Bow, Crown Open 6 inches, Brim 2 3/4 inches, possibly 1920s. The black Wool felt easily dry creases and has a nice glow. I have few of these old Wool hats with similar paper labels but I believe this is the oldest. The Crown Patch is missing. I wasn't able to take very good photos so I will take some wearing it outdoors.

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    This could be a Sheep surrounded by an "F" and a "S" so possibly Friedrich W. Schneider Köln.

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  17. steur

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    Great find, Steve. Maybe the same maker as your "Gloria" and my "Germania" hat, as the label border is exactly the same. I have in my notes that those were made by EMS. Sounds like information that I got from your site.
     
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  18. mayserwegener

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    Stefan, Thanks! Yes it's the same maker. I have a few other hats with the same type of label. I was thinking "EMS" might be the company initials. What do you make of the possible letters on the sweatband logo? I guess it could be "E" and "S"?

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  19. steur

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    The E and S are the most likely letters. Can't say what the critter in between is supposed to be though. Cool find and another survivor!
     
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  20. mayserwegener

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    Stefan, I was also thinking F and S but E and S is a partial match for EMS. I thought it might be a sheep but too much wear to say for sure.
     
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