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Mean Eyed Matt

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Matt, Is the liner stitched in? The Böhm family gain control of the Wien factory post WWII and in the late 1950s Ebreichsdorfer Filzhutfabrik took control of the brand.
No, the liner is glued in - the the visible threads inside are from the fixation of the hat band.
Thanks for the infos: Ebreichsdorfer took control but they still used the name?
 
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No, the liner is glued in - the the visible threads inside are from the fixation of the hat band.
Thanks for the infos: Ebreichsdorfer took control but they still used the name?
Matt, Yes they took over the brand. I can't remember the details regarding the B.B. Wien factory. B.B. Wien was a large Wool hat and hood producer up to WWII but I am not sure about their felt production post WWII. They produced Fur Felt hats and hoods in Novy Jicin/Neutitschein up to WWII. They also had a factory in Prague that I believe produced Wool hats and hoods. Is this one Fur Felt?
 

Mean Eyed Matt

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Matt, Yes they took over the brand. I can't remember the details regarding the B.B. Wien factory. B.B. Wien was a large Wool hat and hood producer up to WWII but I am not sure about their felt production post WWII. They produced Fur Felt hats and hoods in Novy Jicin/Neutitschein up to WWII. They also had a factory in Prague that I believe produced Wool hats and hoods. Is this one Fur Felt?

Yes, it is a fur felt hat - but very stiff...
The glued lining together with the logo and the shape
(and I remember remnants of a black sweat!?) told me it's 60's at the earliest....
 
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Yes, it is a fur felt hat - but very stiff...
The glued lining together with the logo and the shape
(and I remember remnants of a black sweat!?) told me earliest 60s...
I think it is post (after 1972) Ebreichsdorfer Filzhutfabrik. The paper label doesn't match anything I have seen. Could be one of the West German distributors acquired the brand.
 
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That time frame may well be, Steve: thanks for your assessment!

I just read something about the Ebreichsdorf Filzhutfabrik:
This belonged to S. & J. Fraenkel!? I have not known so far...
https://4ebreichsdorf.at/hutfabrik/
https://www.sammleraktien-online.de/ebreichsdorfer-filzhutfabrik-s-j-fraenkel-ag/item-1-7815.html
Matt, S. J. Fraenkel Wien is Ebreichsdorf Filzhutfabrik. S. J. Fraenkel Wien had financial issues and were taken over by a bank (I believe sometime in the 1920s). I can't remember the details but I have them somewhere.

I made a photo album of my March 2017 visit to the Ebreichsdorfer Heimatmuseum . The photos are not in order but there is a section on early S. J. Fraenkel Wien. I started a post on my Website but I never finished it.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskTsdX2R
 
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the_imperialist

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Wayne fantastic! I am envious of your pre-war collection. I wish I could find some exactly like this myself ;) Congrats!

Many thanks for your kind compliment! I consider my collection still relatively modest compared to the giants in this forum!

Great hat, Wayne, and glad to hear, it arrived savely.
The interior with lining and sweat looks as fantastic as the felt.
A shame it's too small - I think you would have worn it with grace!

Yes - I was impressed at the quality of the lining and sweat. The liner is a beautiful purple that my photos dont do justice - the sweat just needs a little conditioner I think - no doubt its new owner will have it top notch in no time.

Wayne, Yes it's Anton Peschel Neutitschein. I am very sorry about the size because it's a rare find and a real beauty. I think it might be early 1930s possibly a bit older.

By the way a "Superbum" is a Succulent plant from Mexico.

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https://worldofsucculents.com/graptopetalum-superbum-beautiful-graptopetalum/

Thanks Steve - appreciate the confirmation. Just out of interest, what qualities points to even a bit earlier - not doubting your assessment of course, just furthering my education.

I would have loved to keep it myself, but it's going to a friend who have helped me with a few vintage finds and a fellow collector - so I know it will be going to a good home.
 

Mean Eyed Matt

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Matt, S. J. Fraenkel Wien is Ebreichsdorf Filzhutfabrik. S. J. Fraenkel Wien had financial issues and were taken over by a bank (I believe sometime in the 1920s). I can't remember the details but I have them somewhere.

I made a photo album of my March 2017 visit to the Ebreichsdorfer Heimatmuseum . The photos are not in order but there is a section on early S. J. Fraenkel Wien. I started a post on my Website but I never finished it.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskTsdX2R

Thanks for the link, Steve:
A great photo collage/documentation of the Heimatmuseum
and really great old hats among them too!
 
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Thanks Steve - appreciate the confirmation. Just out of interest, what qualities points to even a bit earlier - not doubting your assessment of course, just furthering my education.
Wayne, Nothing really, just saying it's possible. Style wise it could be from that time period too. If I were making a bet I would say early to mid 1930s. :)
 
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Great velour hat, Matt!

Here a 1950's Reich hat in khaki or muddy grey shade. Ever heard of that manufacturer?

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Good to see you! Great find!

It's Ottmar Reich. They were out of Lindenberg, Germany hat center (Mayser Milz, Aurel Hube).

https://germanaustrianhats.invisionzone.com/topic/18-ottmar-reich-hutfabrik/

The Ottmar Reich factory building is now the Deutsches Hutmuseum Kulturfabrik.

https://germanaustrianhats.invision...es-hutmuseum-kulturfabrik-lindenberg-germany/
 
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Borchert Berlin W., 58 cm, Date Stamped 1. Dez. 1951. The Smooth Finish Black Felt easily dry creases and has fine hand. Great Form with mid width Band, Brim Binding plus Wind Cord. In my opinion the Borchert Berlin W. logo is definitely a standout. There is no other company mark but I certain the hat was sourced by Borchert Berlin W.. I have two other Borchert Berlin W. Soft Felts from the same time period and appear to be made by the same source.

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Borchert Berlin W., 58 cm, Date Stamped 1. Dez. 1951. The Smooth Finish Black Felt easily dry creases and has fine hand. Great Form with mid width Band, Brim Binding plus Wind Cord. In my opinion the Borchert Berlin W. logo is definitely a standout. There is no other company mark but I certain the hat was sourced by Borchert Berlin W.. I have two other Borchert Berlin W. Soft Felts from the same time period and appear to be made by the same source.

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Open Crown

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Nice find, Steve and in excellent condition. Good shape and proportions.
 
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Wegener Seal in brown called "brüssel" on the label. Wildleder or suede finish with the bound brim at 6,3cm and the crown at 10cm at the center dent. The hand of the felt is fabulous; the German hatmakers had these suede finishes down to an art. Liner is still stitched in, so an earlier hat. Wegeners tend to run a bit large, so this size 55 actually does fit me (all's well...). I'm a bit on the fence about what to do with the torn plastic liner cover.

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Wegener Seal in brown called "brüssel" on the label. Wildleder or suede finish with the bound brim at 6,3cm and the crown at 10cm at the center dent. The hand of the felt is fabulous; the German hatmakers had these suede finishes down to an art. Liner is still stitched in, so an earlier hat. Wegeners tend to run a bit large, so this size 55 actually does fit me (all's well...). I'm a bit on the fence about what to do with the torn plastic liner cover.

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Stefan, Super find! I really like the bow design. I believe I have a couple Wegner hats with a similar design. Also great color and finish.
 
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