Himel Bros Chevalier bis

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by Carlos840, Apr 5, 2018.

  1. Carlos840

    Carlos840 My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    My experience with Himel started slowly.
    I sent an email in May 2017, asking for more information about the jacket and the ordering process, and started waiting.
    In February 2018 i receved a short answer "Are you still interested in the Chevalier?", "Yes i am" was my answer!
    This was pretty much how my entire exchange with Himel went, Dave is a man of few words, don't expect to receive lengthy emails!

    Once we had gotten the ball rolling, everything went very smoothly (and much faster).
    I sent Dave 9 pictures, 3 of me in a tight rash guard, 3 wearing my Bootlegger and 3 wearing my J-100 (each set was front, back and side view). I included all my measurements, and both jackets measurements. And let him pick and choose what he needed from that.
    I also sent him a picture showing five jackets made of Shinki photographed together (thanks TMitchel) and told him which shade i liked best.
    Other than a couple small details, like the single row of holes on the belt, and the lining, i left him to do his thing. By the end of march my jacket was made and shipped.

    I have to say, that this is IMO my best fitting jacket yet (8th jacket), i asked Dave and he said that the pattern was 100% custom according to the numbers i provided. He definitely has the eye when it comes to fitting a jacket! The only other piece of clothing that feels that good on me is my tailored three piece suit, and i was literally laser scanned for that one!

    The stitching is very nice and neat, the triple stitching is very even and there isn't anything noticeably wrong anywhere on the jacket. If you go full OCD you will find things, but nothing i haven't seen on other jackets before.
    The stitch count is much smaller than Aero or Schott, and the needle holes and thread much thinner too. It feels less "industrial" and a little bit more refined, along the lines of what you would expect from ELC or Lewis Leathers.

    The hide is what you would expect from Shinki, nice and supple, thinner than CXL, great grain, no break in, and a very interesting colour that really responds to lighting conditions in interesting manners.

    The lining is Japanese blanket, it is nice and soft, it feels close to Aero Strome weight tartan in thickness, but a lot softer and airier (not as tightly woven).


    Picture time, the colour in these is as accurate as i can get them, and i will soon create a new thread with all my jackets together to show how it compares to brown CXL, to compare colour, grain, fit etc...

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    Fit pics, it works well both opened and closed, and can be worn with the collar up or down.

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    This really fits amazingly well, i have literally no restriction of movement whatsoever.
    It hangs well, doesn't pull on my neck, doesn't choke me when i sit down, i can reach up, down, forward, the underarm gussets are super discrete, but very effective.
    Even though the armholes are super high and snug, they don't feel restrictive.

    Overall, i am very happy with my Himel Chevalier.
    The only slight negative is the long delay to respond when i first got in touch, other than that this has been a completely flawless experience.
    There is a lot of talk about the "is it worth it" question regarding Himel, GW and other makers in these price range, and a bit of a cult following...
    This jacket costs more than both my Bootleggers combined. From a purely technical point of view, it isn't twice as "good" as an Aero, but it fits me much better than any Aero or any other jacket has ever fit me, and that has to be worth something.

    Would i do it again? Without hesitating a second!
    I'm not going to go on a "Himel is the best and only his jackets are worth buying" spree, but i am definitely very impressed by what he has done, and would recommend him without hesitation.
     
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  2. Carlos840

    Carlos840 My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Just in case my method can help someone in the future, this is what i sent him.

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    DC J-100 Black Shinki:

    Pit to pit: 23"
    Back length: 27”
    Front length: 24.5"
    Bottom hem measured from side to side on closed jacket: 20”
    Shoulders: 19"
    Arms length:27”

    Aero Bootlegger Brown CXL:

    Pit to pit: 24.5”
    Back length:26”
    Front length: 22”
    Bottom hem measured from side to side on closed jacket: 20”
    Shoulders: 19.5"
    Arms length:26.5”

    All the rest was left to him.
    I think that in the future, rather than tell a maker what measurements i expect on the finished jacket i will let them do their thing.
     
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  3. jacketjunkie

    jacketjunkie One Too Many

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    Beautiful jacket and a great fit! It really shows he adjusted the jacket perfectly to your body. The taper from chest to hem, combined with fairly broad shoulders for such a slim jacket is something Aeros patterns cannot compete with (Aeros fitting is great for what you pay, don't get me wrong, it's just a different league price-wise and that shows in execution). Reminds me of my Langlitz jackets fit-wise, just in prettier leather and a much more elaborate design. Congratulations on that one!
     
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  4. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    Really nice!
    A head turner for sure.
    It looks fantastic on you, Carlos.
    Congratulations!
    It's amazing how this one looks to "fit" you while the others (nice jackets for sure) seem to "hang" on you.
     
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  5. ton312

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    Excellent Carlos! That jacket is indeed the best fit out of the three although you wear them all extremely well!
    Man forget the jackets tho...where do I get that Vader belt buckle?!?! :D
     
  6. SpeedRcrX

    SpeedRcrX One Too Many

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    You're right it's your best fitting jacket!

    Congrats, it's a beauty.
    My experience with Dave went similary: a few photos with my Pegasus, my body measurements, the jacket measurements and Dave did his magic.
     
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  7. JMax

    JMax I'll Lock Up

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    Spectacular jacket and fit. Really appreciate your post on how you provided measurements, I may have to adopt that process.
     
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  8. sweetfights

    sweetfights Call Me a Cab

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    Thanks for that review.
    Congrats! Truly a stunning jacket in fit, details, leather and accessory details. A big win for you. Wear and ride in good health!!!!
     
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  9. Carlos840

    Carlos840 My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    That buckle is an original 1977 LucasArt buckle! Got it on eBay and hand stitched a buffalo strap to it.
    If you really want nice star wars gear you have to go old!
     
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  10. handymike

    handymike I'll Lock Up

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    Here's mine:
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    Bought it in 1977 or '78.
    Wore the hell out of it as a kid.
    I recently re-discovered it in a keepsake box my mom kept.
    (Sorry- back to your jacket)
     
  11. ton312

    ton312

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    I need one with the Imperial Guard! Or maybe the Rancor (which I could see @Thuggee owning).
     
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  12. Blackadder

    Blackadder Call Me a Cab

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    Great fit
     
  13. Monitor

    Monitor

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    Carlos, in that jacket you seriously look like a protagonist from a fantasy/sci-fi movie/video game/illustration. Come to think of it, I can't seem to recall a movie where a costume designer has done an equally good job with the fit. Let alone better. I'll admit that I didn't like this jacket much before on the promo shots, it did reek of an 80's Hein Gericke design to me but seeing it this way, it really is incredible. Creases in the leather are amazing. Himel did an incredible job with this one. I mean, let's not kid ourselves, it's mostly your physique that does most of the work making this jacket look good but... It's still really something. One of the most impressive jackets I've seen on TFL and that says a lot.

    I could never pull it off and I'd never have the guts to wear it but... It's really cool.
     
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  14. ton312

    ton312

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    Carlos, not sure if you were or not but I have a hunch you'd have been a very good competitive swimmer.
     
  15. Insomnia

    Insomnia One of the Regulars

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    Wonderful jacket, perfect fit and great review!
     
  16. navetsea

    navetsea I'll Lock Up

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    great jacket and review Carlos the jacket body fits you best compared to the other photos you compared it with. arm length is shorter on this style I guess, with gussetless wrist zip probably it is better to have it shorter like that so your thumb base won't get caught in the gussetless opening and then twist the whole sleeve with it.
     
  17. TREEMAN

    TREEMAN One Too Many

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    Fabulous !!!
     
  18. ProteinNerd

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  19. Pdxgeo

    Pdxgeo A-List Customer

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    Damn Carlos all your jackets fit you like you're the model.

    That Himel looks badass. Congrats.
     
  20. Logician

    Logician One of the Regulars

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    This jacket is in a class by itself. I've been in touch with Dave for a Chevalier since last January, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. I might pay him a visit in May so he can take my measurements. I've been "obsessed" with this jacket ever since I saw pics from Mysterio on this forum. Enjoy your Chevalier, it fits you like a glove.
     
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