loungers ; my daughter doesnt like to be labelled perhaps angry or frustrated , and would frown on me for doing so, but it was to explain when so many people are acting illogical. Some are hard wired as too , they can not act so. When people tramp around saying they have rights, or i am ready to go , but like some here have said we arent ready , stay away. I have tried to do my best but i havent seen my former girlfriend in 6 months, and we are working on making up and i want to see her. its not as such as a big deal for her, perhaps because she has never seen me, she is blind. What a year this have been like no other. well gotta go , off to the salt mines. 59lark. in cold snowy Canada.