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I mostly hunt vintage and pre-owned. Whenever I want new, I set up 56 appointments at the cryobank. That about covers it.
Point taken. I would like to think this forum is about more than people finding their next new jacket and showing it off in selfies.I think the notion of an average price is impossible. Unless you put a blanket over it. Average pre-owned/ vintage (under $1K, well maybe, depending on 8 billion specifics)
Average new $500-1k and up from there, depending on roughly another 8 billion things.
Her are two jackets that cost under $200 :
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I could post tons more….
It would unfair and untrue to tell someone new to this hobby they will have the same luck, because in all likelihood, they will not. Based on scarcity of product, lack of “institutional knowledge”, and of course, pure dumb luck.
@Coriu, I have noticed that the majority of your threads/posts seem to be focused on the money spent in this hobby. To me, this is in poor taste. It’s not your business and I’m not sure why you care. This thread would’ve been better off with the premise: “best bang for your buck for the noob leather jacket aficionado”.
There are plenty of resources for that here.
I understand. I am not a millionaire either, by any means. But in what way is discussing a budget or “cost of collection” of any help at all? That should be set prior to the hunt by the individual hunting.Point taken. I would like to think this forum is about more than people finding their next new jacket and showing it off in selfies.
I'd like to think we are here to help newer people get involved in this wonderful hobby. Yes, I talk about money. It is an expensive hobby and some of us don't have unlimited funds or are not willing to mortgage the house for our jacket collection. So, it's important to discuss costs and budgeting, unless this is the millionaire's club where cost is no consideration.
Each of us is on here to get out of it what we desire, and hopefully to give something back, ie contributing to Finds and Deals. I don't have any interest in getting/giving opinions about the fit of jackets. Subsequently, you will likely not find any related posts from me concerning these things.
If this thread was dumb/meaningless, give some of us newer dumbies a chance to discuss. There are guys on here who are in a completely different stratosphere than me in terms of leather jackets. They collect Lamborghinis. I collect Hondas. It would be nice once in a while to talk to others who are at the same place as me and not someone who has $20k of jackets in his closet.
I have never seen anyone called out on this forum for spending too little on a jacket or not showing up with the right brand to impress.It would be nice once in a while to talk to others who are at the same place as me and not someone who has $20k of jackets in his closet.
Who are you to decide that Carlos is 'wildly wealthy' and that he doesn't have to worry about budget.Carlos, you are obviously wildly wealthy to own tens of thousands of dollars of leather jackets, so obviously you don't have to worry much about budget.
I'm that type of guy. One could say I'm really passionate about this hobby. So now you're telling me I better have limits?But if one is the type who is looking for the next jacket before the last purchase has even arrived, one better have limits or it can lead to financial ruin
I would like to think this forum is about more than people finding their next new jacket and showing it off in selfies.
I'm 100% with @ton312 on this one - It's never about showing off a new jacket, or at least I don't see it that way. Ultimately, the jacket alone is utterly irrelevant and frankly, while I do appreciate all the little details that make each maker unique, I cannot bring myself to particularly care for it in any way other than how I would look in it. How it would make me look.
To me, leather jackets begin to exist only when worn. Sure, we can admire the stitching, the seams, details, this, that but the only thing that I want to know is what it looks like on someone.
We are in a completely different place in terms of how we think, sir. Just so you know, I am disabled. When you struggle to walk and look like like some kind of weeble wobble, it really does a number on the silhouette. The first thing people think when they see me is likely "How did that guy get so F'd up?"...not, oh that leather jacket just doesn't work. And y'know what? I could care less.I understand. I am not a millionaire either, by any means. But in what way is discussing a budget or “cost of collection” of any help at all? That should be set prior to the hunt by the individual hunting.
What occurs to me though is that you have omitted a very (most?) important part of the entire jacket process…the fit. To me this is absolutely first. Without the fit who cares what it cost or what it is made of, or if you got a good deal or a shit deal!???
So I believe people posting selfies are looking for fit feedback as much as “showing off”. At least that’s what I believe and have witnessed over the past decade. I don’t see how you can have any legitimate conversation about any item of clothing without considering the most important part.
Assuming everybody here is able to make there own decisions and set their own personal limits….I just do not see the point of the last question you asked in your introductory post….in what way would this help anyone in anyway, whatsoever?
Speaking for myself, it can be intimidating to new people on here and discourage active participation when people are talking about big numbers, ie $1000 jackets, and pursuing a jacket every few weeks. I think it could be very easy for someone to think, "This is not for me. These guys are high rollers." Maybe that's one reason why we often have ten times as many guests online as active members.Who are you to decide that Carlos is 'wildly wealthy' and that he doesn't have to worry about budget.
I'm that type of guy. One could say I'm really passionate about this hobby. So now you're telling me I better have limits?
I feel like you're projecting your own spending habits onto others, which is bad taste imo.
Personally I don't post fit pics because I'm looking for feedback. I can tell whether a jacket fits or not just by trying it on , I don't even have to look at the mirror for that.So I believe people posting selfies are looking for fit feedback as much as “showing off”. At least that’s what I believe and have witnessed over the past decade.
Speaking for myself, it can be intimidating to new people on here and discourage active participation when people are talking about big numbers, ie $1000 jackets,
When I first joined here I didn't have a clue about the cost of the jackets that were discussed here. Because that wasn't discussed (and rightfully so imo because it's not about that).think it could be very easy for someone to think, "This is not for me. These guys are high rollers."
I think maybe a new thread is a good idea. I took this one more as a helpful guide to great less expensive jackets for would-be collectors, but it didn’t go that way....
Something along the lines of @tmitchell59’s threads on brands would be very useful. Maybe we could group makers by price/value.
TFL Guide to Leather Jacket Collecting: ep1- on a budget.
The average cost per____ can be a rough reflection of someone's taste. I have two friends who are rabid pistol collectors. One has guns that average about $500 each and the other has pistols that average about $1000 each. Yes, the latter has VERY good taste. Unfortunately for him, he is a rabid collector with very good taste..a terrible combination that has already cost him one wife.
Maybe some folks on here don't consider themselves collectors. I think anyone who owns more than a few leather jackets is a collector. If not, I am not sure what one would call it, but it is not just your average Joe.
Don't overthink it. The main purpose of this thread was to give newbies a sense of hope that I can play in this game without busting the bank. Think about this from the perspective of a person completely new to leather jackets with little concept of cost of these jackets. What price range should I consider? What is realistic? When I started, I had NO idea what that range should be...not a clue.
For me, part of the fun and challenge of collecting is limiting myself to what I spend and seeing what I can come up with. Based upon my taste and tolerance, I've established a basic target range(bracketed by the average price) that I rarely veer from. That range might be different for different people depending upon their budget, tastes, etc.
One thing I've learned from spending my life around collectors of many types...if one is willing to spend "X" today for something, they'll likely have no issue justifying it tomorrow if a nice shiny new thing comes along. Some are disciplined enough not to, but many aren't.
There may be some new people out there thinking, "I could never afford to collect leather jackets." And many likely could not if they buy new or splurge on $900 used jackets. But if patient and willing to buy used, you one could have 5 beautiful jackets in your closet for $1500.