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Jel

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Can anyone please advice what's the price range in Paul's Hat Works? Anything higher than 500usd my 3 kids will kill me.

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jlee562

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Can anyone please advice what's the price range in Paul's Hat Works? Anything higher than 500usd my 3 kids will kill me.

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felt hats are $600 plus I believe. But they may have different options than the last time I checked, they recently produced a batch of lightweight beaver felts for another local retailer and they weren't quite so much.
 
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Will be doing probably a once-in-a-lifetime trip to the above cities. Need your help for recommendations on must visit legit Hat shops (if any). So far the ones I found are from far away states like Oregon, Seattle and Texas. Looking for either hemp or felt.

No vintage for me though since I have a fairly small head (hard to find size). I currently have Borsalino Trillby (size57) and Panama (size56).

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You lost me on the “no vintage for me since I have a fairly small head....” 56 to 57 is 7 to 7 1/8 US and those are very common sizes often available at incredible prices.


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Jel

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felt hats are $600 plus I believe. But they may have different options than the last time I checked, they recently produced a batch of lightweight beaver felts for another local retailer and they weren't quite so much.
Have you seen them use hemp like stetson stratoliner hemp?

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Jel

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You lost me on the “no vintage for me since I have a fairly small head....” 56 to 57 is 7 to 7 1/8 US and those are very common sizes often available at incredible prices.


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I always thought my head was small. I guess I'm wrong. Thanks for the heads up

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milandro

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Indeed , 99% of the vintage hats that I come across are way smaller than my 59 to 61 (even a 62) cm hat size. The WHO estimates the average size to be 55cm for women and 57 for men.

I have in fact wondered if (along with the average height) the average head size has grown over the years.
There are records of these things.

I live in the country where the tallest (on average 182cm ) people in the world live and I am (or at least used to be) 183cm, not very tall by the national standard, still, only 20% of the Dutch population is taller than 180cm.

So it is not unlikely that I find hats sized properly but most are too small and just a few are too big. A few days ago I bought a Brixton Fedora Gain in sage color which was 62 sm but was way bigger than my other hat which reads size 62 and couldn’t be sized down without looking a bit ridiculous.

Most vintage hats are 55 to 57 cm.

I have recently bought a 57cm hat to try to stretch it to my size. I did it ( to the cost of head and sweatband).

Anyway, in the Netherlands, I did say before, we have the Vintage Hatter in Amsterdam (also new hats, mostly, my guess, are from previous years collections ) https://vintagehatter.com, otherwise another shop which I recommend for new hats is Jos van Dijk in Utrecht http://josvandijck.nl https://www.hoedenonline.nl. They helped me to work on a couple of hats and there aren’t too many shops which have the will to do anything serious (aside steaming and stretching) to hats these days!
 

Pellie

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Indeed , 99% of the vintage hats that I come across are way smaller than my 59 to 61 (even a 62) cm hat size. The WHO estimates the average size to be 55cm for women and 57 for men.

I have in fact wondered if (along with the average height) the average head size has grown over the years.
There are records of these things.

I live in the country where the tallest (on average 182cm ) people in the world live and I am (or at least used to be) 183cm, not very tall by the national standard, still, only 20% of the Dutch population is taller than 180cm.

So it is not unlikely that I find hats sized properly but most are too small and just a few are too big. A few days ago I bought a Brixton Fedora Gain in sage color which was 62 sm but was way bigger than my other hat which reads size 62 and couldn’t be sized down without looking a bit ridiculous.

Most vintage hats are 55 to 57 cm.

I have recently bought a 57cm hat to try to stretch it to my size. I did it ( to the cost of head and sweatband).

Anyway, in the Netherlands, I did say before, we have the Vintage Hatter in Amsterdam (also new hats, mostly, my guess, are from previous years collections ) https://vintagehatter.com, otherwise another shop which I recommend for new hats is Jos van Dijk in Utrecht http://josvandijck.nl https://www.hoedenonline.nl. They helped me to work on a couple of hats and there aren’t too many shops which have the will to do anything serious (aside steaming and stretching) to hats these days!
In the netherlands are also 'de Hoedenmaker' http://dehoedenmaker.nl/ en 'Schaduwloper' (Sylvester Maria) instagram profile: https://instagram.com/schaduwloper?igshid=g0w1gt0aq0cy
 

milandro

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Yes, thanks for the link, I’ve read about Dirk-Jan Kortschot & Marcel de Leeuw

They seem to run a very upmarket shop (expensive ?) seen the location ( the canals' belt of Amsterdam where rent must cost a fortune) and of course they are not only interested in gentlemen’s hats but quite a bit in Ladies hats too ( since they shared the ambition of being able to fashion a hat for Queen Maxima). I had considered them when the time came to cut the brim of a hat of mine. I called them and left a message on their answering machine but I seem to remember that I got no reply so I went to look further.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2164524-een-hoed-maken-voor-maxima-dat-is-de-ultieme-droom.html

 
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Yes, thanks for the link, I’ve read about Dirk-Jan Kortschot & Marcel de Leeuw

They seem to run a very upmarket shop (expensive ?) seen the location ( the canals' belt of Amsterdam where rent must cost a fortune) and of course they are not only interested in gentlemen’s hats but quite a bit in Ladies hats too ( since they shared the ambition of being able to fashion a hat for Queen Maxima). I had considered them when the time came to cut the brim of a hat of mine. I called them and left a message on their answering machine but I seem to remember that I got no reply so I went to look further.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2164524-een-hoed-maken-voor-maxima-dat-is-de-ultieme-droom.html

I had Dirk-Jan Kortschot work on a few hats of mine when they were still located in Arnhem. Very nice fellow and enjoyable to work with. He is the hatmaker and his partner is more the marketing man. The location in Amsterdam is also a bed and breakfast, indeed on a stunning location. Their market is more one-off hats for theatre productions, fashion pieces and the like and they are not cheap, but the work is very good. I didn't use them again because of price and because they were already having trouble sourcing good ribbon.
 

milandro

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I think Mr. Kortschot also teaches hatmaking.

Most modern hatmakers only target the market of nieuw, bespoke, very expensive hats. Very few would be into renovation and alterations of old hats and if someone sells “ vintage hats” they general have a very limited understanding of the techniques .
 
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