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Need help identifying vintage Motorcycle Jacket

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by technovox, Apr 19, 2019.

  1. technovox

    technovox Practically Family

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    I just reeled in this vintage Moto jacket from a private party this afternoon- had to drive almost half way across the state to get it...Came from an ex-rock n'roller. Can anyone identify the maker or the era of this jacket? Has a cool half-belt back with original buckles, button sleeves...and badge holder with cross chest pocket on front. Unfortunately, a tad too small.

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  2. ton312

    ton312 I'll Lock Up

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    I have no clue but my God that is cool!!
     
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  3. tmitchell59

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    Interesting jacket. The lining looks familiar, the side straps and buckle too. Looks like Steerhide? What do you think? Is the zipper original and what brand?
     
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  4. handymike

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    Too small? Will it fit me (38)?
     
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  5. technovox

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    I'm not sure if the main zip is original- could be, based on that it's a small Talon, same brand as the pocket zip. And I really wouldn't venture a guess as to steerhide or horsehide. The leather is thick and has some weight to it.
     
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  6. technovox

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    Approximately a size 40-
    21" pit to pit
    18" shoulder to shoulder
    24" shoulder seam to end of sleeve cuff.
     
  7. Gamma68

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    Just my size!

    No idea who the maker was, but it’s a nice jacket.
     
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  8. Mich486

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    A bit too beaten up for me to feel comfortable wearing it but I really like the design.


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  9. Edward

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    Very reminisent of late 20s/ early thirties sports-type jacket design out of which the likes of the Perfecto as we know it evolved by the late 40s, though this particular example may have been manufactured later. POcket configuration looks very thirties to me. I would suspect it might have been a police uniform jacket; I've never seen any leather jackets that came with the eyelets for a badge that were'nt a police uniform style. Maybe worth exploring that? Looks a bit like but doesn't match two or three of Taylor's police designs.
     
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  10. Peacoat

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    .With a p2p of 21" I think that is closer to a size 38. With all of my leather jackets, depending on the thickness of the leather, I subtract about 4" from the p2p to get the actual size of the jacket. Oddly enough, with peacoats, subtract 2" to get the actual size of the coat.
     
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  11. Peacoat

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    I still haven't figured out this multi quote thing, so a separate post. Multi quote hasn't yet worked for me. I see @Edward has no problem using it, but he is more clever than I am.

    A coat of Pecard would remove most of the wear (patina) on that jacket and freshen it up quite a bit. Then the Pecard would slowly fade and the patina would return.
     
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  12. VillainOfNash

    VillainOfNash One of the Regulars

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    It looks pretty reminiscent to a jacket I’ve got...I’ll have to double check when I get home later this evening, but if I remember correctly that one has the same lining with no tag as well. Super cool though...great score. Well worth the road trip.
     
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  13. Lebowski

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    Block Bilt?
     
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  14. tmitchell59

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    The zipper, even if replaced, can help identify the era, which can help identify the source.

    This is a Talon from the 40s
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    Here is another slightly different pull, but Talon down the middle of the stop, also from the 40s.

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    From what I could see it looks more like the second Zipper? The 50s would have a similar pull to the second pic with no Talon down the middle.

    Both of these zippers are original, no other sewing tracks. Not uncommon to find 30s, 40s jackets with 50s Zippers. Some well done others not so.
     
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  15. Edward

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    Instead of hitting 'reply', press the 'quote' button on each post to which you want to reply, then scroll down to the reply box and hit 'add quotes'. That lets you add all the selected quotes (or drop ones you no longer want to answer) to thecanswer windown, then you deal with them as normal. :)
     
  16. Peacoat

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    Or you could use any quality leather conditioner.

    Thanks. I was able to get that far, but neglected to hit the last button that would display the quotes so I could make my comments underneath. Now I have it. Just hope I don't forget it.
     
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  17. technovox

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    Thanks for the pics...Here's a close up of the main zip on the jacket in question. Perhaps a replacement zip from the 50's?
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  18. tmitchell59

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    Yes, that is a 50s Talon. Does look to be replaced given the loose threads I can see in the picture. I thought I had a jacket with the same buckle and strap, but I was mistaken.

    As others have said, could well be late 30s origin. Found in California probably made in the Bay Area.

    In my talks with Dave Shelley I have come to understand there is a lot of jacket forensics that I know nothing about, most people don't know/understand. The subtle yet significant differences in the construction of a jacket that can identify the maker or rule out a maker.

    I ask about steerhide as it does show up in police jackets from the 30s through the 50s. I originally was surprised by that, thinking all tough wear jackets would be Horsehide. How did a maker determine what leather to use? What they had in stock? What they could get? What they liked in a certain application? What was popular? What was cost effective?

    This is a case of a cool jacket that remains Cool with no name, no known leather, no known age.
     
  19. Corky Corcovado

    Corky Corcovado One of the Regulars

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    I'll guess Montgomery Ward.
     
  20. Gamma68

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    Given the lining, I'd say Block Built is a good guess.

    The biggest identifying factor may be the buckles on the side adjustment tabs, which appear to be unique. I assume they are adjustable?
     

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