Orgueil Cossack New

Discussion in 'Outerwear' started by RiceKnight, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. RiceKnight

    RiceKnight Familiar Face

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    Hi, I just want to show you my new Orgueil Cossack jacket in Steer hide which I purchased from Rivets store in Shanghai.

    The store also had a Himel Bro's Heron, but I opted for this instead due to it being half the price and preferring the stylings cue's.

    I was expecting a tighter fit as it's size 44 which is what my Aero 30s HB is. I had read that the Japanese jackets run small. The shoulders could do with an inch less but I'm really happy the sleeves are not to short.

    Here's some photos.
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  2. RiceKnight

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    I will add that the leather is reacting really fast to the oil on my skin and the humid weather in SH right now
     
  3. dudewuttheheck

    dudewuttheheck Call Me a Cab

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    That's a great looking jacket. Looks like a solid fit as well.
     
  4. RiceKnight

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    Thanks Dude, after owning an Aero I was honesty a little disappointed with the stitching on the Aero compared to my Belstaff and D&G. This Orgueil's stitching is as good as those jackets, while it may not be a Freewheelers or Real McCoy's ^^

    Actually I'm waiting for you to review some Freewheelers jackets on your almostvintagestyle YouTube channel.
     
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  5. Maitiu

    Maitiu New in Town

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    I'm a big fan of Orgueil. That jacket looks fantastic on you.
     
  6. mtrlr

    mtrlr One of the Regulars

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    Really beautiful. But are the shoulders a little bit of?
     
  7. RiceKnight

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    Yes the shoulders are way off lol. Keep wondering if I should have gone the 42 with a better shoulder fit but a little tight in the chest and short in the sleeves. Guess that's how it goes with Japanese sizing.

    I think I can live with it
     
  8. Dr H

    Dr H Call Me a Cab

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    The shoulders are a little wide, but not drooping.
    You’ve summarised the dilemma for a typical Western buyer considering a jacket cut for Japanese buyers well.
     
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  9. jacketjunkie

    jacketjunkie One Too Many

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    The shoulders are somewhat wide, but personally I kind of like that in my jackets, my favourites are JL and Langlitz which both by design have wide shoulders. Leather on this looks great too. I think you could have gone down a size for fit in the body, it's a bit baggy but you are absolutely right, the sleeves would have been too short then. They really shouldnt be shorter than they are in this size, so I think what you got is the best you can get from this particular style.
     
  10. Mich486

    Mich486 One Too Many

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    I’d be happy with the shoulders as they give off a more relaxed vibe. The thing that would bother me a little is the body length which I think is too much by 2” although the sleeves I wouldn’t want them any shorter.


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  11. Peter Mackin

    Peter Mackin Practically Family

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    Nice looking jacket but it looks one size too big for you,,,
     
  12. RiceKnight

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    Thanks for the honest feed back, I do agree with you
     
  13. Carlos840

    Carlos840 My Mail is Forwarded Here

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    Its a nice looking jacket, but IMO the fit is off.
    It is too wide in the shoulders and more importantly too long in the body.
    IMO this style of jacket should be much much shorter, it should cover your belt and that's it.

    Can you send it back and try a 42?
     
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  14. Sloan1874

    Sloan1874 I'll Lock Up

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    This is why I've kind of given up with Japanese stuff. No matter how much I like the item, the fit always lets it down a little. That said, I'm sitting here in a RM 'Hookless Zips' t-shirt that I love, so it's a question of what you're willing to live with.
     
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  15. barnabus

    barnabus Practically Family

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    IMO it's much too big all over, except the sleeves are too short. Sorry.
     
  16. torfjord

    torfjord One Too Many

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    If this was my jacket and it fit me like that, I would send it back. In my opinion you can get a much much better fit in a Cossack/shawl collar jacket from another maker. This one is too baggy and too long.

    It’s a shame it doesn’t fit you, cause it really has a lot of interesting details and the leather looks really nice.


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  17. RiceKnight

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    I've sent it back and exchanged for a size 40, there's a chance I should have exchanged for 42 instead. But you guys are right it looks way to big on me considering it's meant to be a slim cut. I know the sleeves are going to be a bit short but I really like this jacket and I want a tight fit!

    Sometimes you get a new jacket, and try to convince yourself it's a good fit, after a few days reality sets in as it festers in the back of your mind
     
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  18. RiceKnight

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    Don't be sorry for giving me the truth, you can feel sorry for me not having the right fit though =_=;
     
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2019
  19. RiceKnight

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    The size 40 replacement arrived. Sleeves to short as I suspected, I decided to live with it. The fit is definitely slim.

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    And done up
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  20. jacketjunkie

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