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Plastic Felt

Discussion in 'Hats' started by alanfgag, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. alanfgag

    alanfgag

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    From the days when the word plastic was rich with promise... a handful of examples of Plastic Felt hats have surfaced on the lounge. This recently acquired post war Stetson is made from a wool mix combined with Vinyon, a synthetic fiber made from polyvinyl chloride (think PVC plumbing pipe) first marketed in 1939. The construction gives the form a pre-creased C crown with 4 1/2" height and 2 3/4" brim. This example has a 3/4" self ribbon.

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    1/8" spaced spiral stitching throughout gives some of the strength of a fur felt body but none of the softness... it feels like a pea coat. The hat weighs 3.9 ounces.

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    Under the hood are familiar elements that are just different enough to make you wonder whether Stetson manufactured this or contracted it out to another factory.

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  2. alanfgag

    alanfgag

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    Have we seen another size tag like this?

    The sweatband is synthetic but feels remarkably like the thin supple sweats used in the early 1940s, with a natural looking nap on the back side. The cut edge, uniform grain and stamping without any embossment are clues. Stetson would come back to master this flat style of imprinting in the modern era. ugh.

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    Size tag is stapled. There are no typical Stetson labels found under the sweat.

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    Wixed?? What is that?

    It's a good wearing hat with nice styling though I don't know if I'd venture out in the rain with it. I hate the smell of wet PVC.

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    Please feel free to add other examples and information to this thread.
     
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  3. alanfgag

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  4. Sprinkles

    Sprinkles One of the Regulars

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    A very curious piece! Thanks for sharing it, I know this was in another thread as well but it would be great to see some other examples show up in this new designated thread. Sweatband sure is something...got me on the "wixed" as well.
     
  5. splintercellsz

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    Very interesting!
     
  6. Brad Bowers

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    Could it be a mirror of the word "mixed?" Ink transfer or something like that?
     
  7. Sprinkles

    Sprinkles One of the Regulars

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    Well that would probably make sense, like "mixed materials" perhaps?
     
  8. Chepstow

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    Alan, a coole and rare hat. I think you stay warm under it.
     
  9. mayserwegener

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    Alan, Fantastic! Could the sweatband be some type leather with an exterior coating?
     
  10. rlk

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    "10 Autumn Shades-Plain or Mixed"

    I see the top is a separate piece like a fabric hat. May have been made in that department.
     
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  11. alanfgag

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    How nice it is to have many eyes and brains to assist on this.

    Seeing now that there is transfer on the contents label from the printed pieces being stacked (I should know about transfer from my day job!) - "wixed" is most certainly "mixed" that has transferred from the front where it is hidden by being glued to the sweatband. And the sweatband may very well be leather with a water repellent treatment.
     
  12. Sprinkles

    Sprinkles One of the Regulars

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    Seems so obvious now! :eusa_doh:
     
  13. Redfokker

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    Bump, we now will have a new plastic felt to compare with Alan's beauty. Soon...
     
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  14. Bob Roberts

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    Good bringback. ^ ^ ^ ^
     
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  15. splintercellsz

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    Pre-46 Mallory Plastic Felt

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    25% Vinyon
    75% Wool

    Side note, The ad Alan posted in the threads beginning says "Every inch a Stetson"... I think Mallory says otherwise

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  16. splintercellsz

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  17. Here is a copy of an ad I have related to these hats. Price is the same as found in Allan's hat!!
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    Back of this page has an ad for a roaster!!!!:)
     
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  18. moontheloon

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    you own the physical ad ?

    that is fantastic
     
  19. Yes............I have a nice collection of ads and booklets related to Stetson.
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  20. moontheloon

    moontheloon I'll Lock Up

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    I’d love to get a look at those
    Do you have them scanned?

    The Stetson ad thread which is my all time favorite is hurting due to horrible web hosting sites... you may be able to single handedly revive it


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