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Short Balding Guy

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Thanks for sharing the "Regents." I do enjoy the pic showcase, the contrasting ribbon treatments on similar hats and darn near similar pleated liners. The 50's hats had a lot of variability, in my handling of them. I like that these hats can be creased. Many of the 50's hats I have handled have creases that were factory set. Mostly the creases were well done, but heaven help you if you wish a different crease. They appear to have crown dimensions that are workable.

Thanks again for sharing Bob.

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Joe (@Blare) had asked me a couple of days ago about comparing the Stetson Whippet vs. the Mallory Coast to Coast, which is often characterized as Mallory's version of the Whippet.

I don't necessarily find this the case as I find them to have significantly different profiles and attributes. Additionally though I'm not certain, the C2C may pre-date the Whippet.

A few photos for side-by-side comparison (Whippet on the Left, C2C on the right):

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The specs for each differ, as the Whippet was sold with a 5 1/2" open crown and the C2C appears to be somewhat factory creased. I realized I'd never popped the crown on this yesterday and when I did, it exhibited a fairly weird bulbous-y rise in the back and a little shorter in the front. The rear clocks in at ~5 1/2", but the front is more like 5 1/4".

I also find the Whippet to be much blockier. The brims are identical at 2 1/2" with a 3/8" binding. The ribbons differ, with the Whippet at 1 1/2" and the C2C at 1 3/8".

Lastly, the Whippet has a very smooth hand, but the C2C is finished just a little fuzzier and has a very soft hand.

So, there are my impressions of these two fine examples of factory hats from the 50s.
 

Daniele Tanto

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Joe (@Blare) had asked me a couple of days ago about comparing the Stetson Whippet vs. the Mallory Coast to Coast, which is often characterized as Mallory's version of the Whippet.

I don't necessarily find this the case as I find them to have significantly different profiles and attributes. Additionally though I'm not certain, the C2C may pre-date the Whippet.

A few photos for side-by-side comparison (Whippet on the Left, C2C on the right):

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Jim, beyond the similarities between the two hats, one thing is certain: they are magnificent.
Complimenti
 

Blare

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Joe (@Blare) had asked me a couple of days ago about comparing the Stetson Whippet vs. the Mallory Coast to Coast, which is often characterized as Mallory's version of the Whippet.

I don't necessarily find this the case as I find them to have significantly different profiles and attributes. Additionally though I'm not certain, the C2C may pre-date the Whippet.

A few photos for side-by-side comparison (Whippet on the Left, C2C on the right):

View attachment 468894 View attachment 468895 View attachment 468896

The specs for each differ, as the Whippet was sold with a 5 1/2" open crown and the C2C appears to be somewhat factory creased. I realized I'd never popped the crown on this yesterday and when I did, it exhibited a fairly weird bulbous-y rise in the back and a little shorter in the front. The rear clocks in at ~5 1/2", but the front is more like 5 1/4".

I also find the Whippet to be much blockier. The brims are identical at 2 1/2" with a 3/8" binding. The ribbons differ, with the Whippet at 1 1/2" and the C2C at 1 3/8".

Lastly, the Whippet has a very smooth hand, but the C2C is finished just a little fuzzier and has a very soft hand.

So, there are my impressions of these two fine examples of factory hats from the 50s.
Thank you Jim. I concur with your observations. The whippet does seem to have a bit blockier crown and the C2C a factory crease. My new C2C actually has a slightly shorter brim at 2 3/8 but I think that is more to do with it likely being later in the run.

Finishing differences probably start to diminish as Mallory was being more integrated into Stetson processes ect.

Is your C2C designated as “Aristocrat Quality“ as well? Though I have not noticed a real discernible difference between aristocrat and premier qualities of same age. Era seems to have more effect than quality level.
 
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Jim, beyond the similarities between the two hats, one thing is certain: they are magnificent.
Complimenti

Thank you, Daniele

Thank you Jim. I concur with your observations. The whippet does seem to have a bit blockier crown and the C2C a factory crease. My new C2C actually has a slightly shorter brim at 2 3/8 but I think that is more to do with it likely being later in the run.

Finishing differences probably start to diminish as Mallory was being more integrated into Stetson processes ect.

Is your C2C designated as “Aristocrat Quality“ as well? Though I have not noticed a real discernible difference between aristocrat and premier qualities of same age. Era seems to have more effect than quality level.

It's Aristocat Quality, and I think a contemporary of yours. Mine has the same paper label as yours. I figured maybe the brim width was because of the smaller size.
 

Blare

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Thank you, Daniele



It's Aristocat Quality, and I think a contemporary of yours. Mine has the same paper label as yours. I figured maybe the brim width was because of the smaller size.
Interesting. Very possible. Would make sense to do so. So many times manufacturers did not change brim and crown dimensions as the hats went up in size. As evidenced by the stark difference in proportions for the same hat in my size versus Brent.

Then there is my dark brown “Premiere Quality“ that is slightly dimensional 2 1/2 to the front 2 3/8 on the sides. That one though is a 7 LO
 

Mighty44

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Joe (@Blare) had asked me a couple of days ago about comparing the Stetson Whippet vs. the Mallory Coast to Coast, which is often characterized as Mallory's version of the Whippet.

I don't necessarily find this the case as I find them to have significantly different profiles and attributes. Additionally though I'm not certain, the C2C may pre-date the Whippet.

A few photos for side-by-side comparison (Whippet on the Left, C2C on the right):

View attachment 468894 View attachment 468895 View attachment 468896

The specs for each differ, as the Whippet was sold with a 5 1/2" open crown and the C2C appears to be somewhat factory creased. I realized I'd never popped the crown on this yesterday and when I did, it exhibited a fairly weird bulbous-y rise in the back and a little shorter in the front. The rear clocks in at ~5 1/2", but the front is more like 5 1/4".

I also find the Whippet to be much blockier. The brims are identical at 2 1/2" with a 3/8" binding. The ribbons differ, with the Whippet at 1 1/2" and the C2C at 1 3/8".

Lastly, the Whippet has a very smooth hand, but the C2C is finished just a little fuzzier and has a very soft hand.

So, there are my impressions of these two fine examples of factory hats from the 50s.
Drop dead gorgeous, both of them.
 

Short Balding Guy

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Joe (@Blare) had asked me a couple of days ago about comparing the Stetson Whippet vs. the Mallory Coast to Coast, which is often characterized as Mallory's version of the Whippet.

I don't necessarily find this the case as I find them to have significantly different profiles and attributes. Additionally though I'm not certain, the C2C may pre-date the Whippet.

A few photos for side-by-side comparison (Whippet on the Left, C2C on the right):

View attachment 468894 View attachment 468895 View attachment 468896

The specs for each differ, as the Whippet was sold with a 5 1/2" open crown and the C2C appears to be somewhat factory creased. I realized I'd never popped the crown on this yesterday and when I did, it exhibited a fairly weird bulbous-y rise in the back and a little shorter in the front. The rear clocks in at ~5 1/2", but the front is more like 5 1/4".

I also find the Whippet to be much blockier. The brims are identical at 2 1/2" with a 3/8" binding. The ribbons differ, with the Whippet at 1 1/2" and the C2C at 1 3/8".

Lastly, the Whippet has a very smooth hand, but the C2C is finished just a little fuzzier and has a very soft hand.

So, there are my impressions of these two fine examples of factory hats from the 50s.

Thanks for sharing your special hats. Cheers, Eric -
 

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