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Some hat trivia

Brad Bowers

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I noticed that the Indiana Jones page reads suspiciously like parts of the IndyGear page...

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Feraud

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When is a hat a Hat?

In my opinion it is NOT when it is worn with sneakers, tank tops and lots of gold jewelry.

The article is not putting forth a good discussion about how hats are making a comeback. Rather it reads to me how they are being used as an accessory. This is very very different from how we wear them.

The essence of the hat is how men wear them. No one is going to get comments like "you look classy" or "elegant" wearing a bright red bowler with a matching bright red jumpsuit!

This resurgence sounds like a fad. One which I look forward to it's passing.
 

Art Fawcett

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I wear a hat in all phases of my life and day. About the only time I don't is when I'm working inside the shop, asleep, or in the shower so I can be pretty condifent when I say that i have worn one with sneakers, slippers, shorts & hawaiian shirt, levi's, heck swimming trunks. I really don't care what clothing someone is wearing while also wearing a hat nor do I care for what reasons, I just want it to come back. If the gangster rap scene contributes to that, so be it, if the music industry, the film industry, or the baking industry helps, then I'm for it. For me a hat is a necessity but for most it IS an accessory and i don't find that offensive but encouraging.
OK, we have a kid with his first red homburg trying to be cool and succeeds for the moment. This kid is going to grow up and a percentage of them will change their tastes but perhaps stick with hats but with taste rather than chasing a fad. We now have a life long hat wearer who hopefully will grow with US. I prefer to look at the positive side of this and be hopeful that good taste will eventually return.
 

Michael Mallory

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"Histories" like that one are always good for a few laughs. I suppose the "Godfather" hat (aka the homburg) achieved its notoriety from being worn by those notorious Chicago gangland killers King Edward VII, Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower. I recently found a beautiful 1930s derby in perfect condition at a flea market. It was labeled a homburg. At least they knew it was a hat instead of a finger bowl.
 
Originally posted by Michael Mallory
"Histories" like that one are always good for a few laughs. I suppose the "Godfather" hat (aka the homburg) achieved its notoriety from being worn by those notorious Chicago gangland killers King Edward VII, Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower. I recently found a beautiful 1930s derby in perfect condition at a flea market. It was labeled a homburg. At least they knew it was a hat instead of a finger bowl.

Don't knock the uninformed. We get plenty of good deals from them. ;) I wore my homberg to church today. The priest though it was a fedora! I had to explain it to him.
On the other side of the coin was a friend of mine that looked at the hat and remarked that his father had on just like it. The only time he ever saw him without it was inside and when he went to sleep. LOL I might get him into the hat thing because of a recent bout with skin cancer on his nose. Get this---the doctor told him to wear a hat. Is that a prescription that we can abide by or what? :cool:
I won't even mention the two ladies who almost sat on it. :eek:

Regards to all,

J
 

silverHalo

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those who forget history are destined to repeat it...

I know this is an old thread but does anyone know who runs the hathistory.org website? It seems like a great idea but is not very detailed and could use a helping hand. It seems that with all the knowledge that the members of this group has, one could have a very definitive and organized history of hats web page. I can do a bit of coding and layout, and hosting is pretty cheap these days. Anyone else thought of this idea yet? We could even have updates from the traveling hat!!
 
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I'm with Art, and Michael Mallory. I rarely step outside without a hat atop my empty head. Such has been my habit all my adult life. I wear 'em with blue jeans and sneakers and in a suit and tie. I wear 'em in good weather and bad. And of course I've heard all the uniformed references to gangsters and cowboys. It's as though there was no such thing as a hat before Al Capone (and "The Godfather") came along.
Look, I like to see a young man sporting a lid, even if it is in a shade of lilac or fuchsia. I just assume that he's as bold as I was back when I was his age, when it often seemed that I was the only one out there wearing a proper hat. I tip my hat to him, and hope that he, too, grows to feel naked without his lid.
Yes, that thing Fedora Steve brought our attention was largely self-serving and inaccurate (not on his part, of course), but what would we expect from such a website? I trust that once a man gets in the habit, he'll stay in it. I mean really, how could he do otherwise?
 

Aaron Hats

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Does it matter?
Art is exactly right. You can bash Hatco, Bollman and every other mass manufacturer of hats but without them all of us would be much worse off than we already are when it comes to hats.

Also, there's only one reason a page like that is written...search engines.
 

GHT

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Hat trivia:
Where does the expression a "hat trick" originate?
The term first appeared in 1858 in cricket, to describe H. H. Stephenson's taking three wickets with three consecutive bowling deliveries. Fans held a collection for Stephenson, and presented him with a hat bought with the proceeds. The term was used in print for the first time in 1865. The term was eventually adopted by many other sports including hockey, association football (soccer), water polo, and team handball.
So now you know, want to increase your hat collection? Learn to play cricket.
Why do London taxis look like a cross between a car and a small van?
London black taxis are made tall so that a gentleman can ride in them without taking off a top hat.
In the middle of 19th century baseball umpires wore top hats during the game.
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Did you know that the white tall chef hats traditionally have 100 pleats to represent a hundred ways an egg can be prepared?
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They were invented by cuisine inventors Marie-Antoine Carème and Auguste Escoffier as a method of establishing hierarchy in the kitchen. Escoffier is also the origin of the vulgar English word, 'scoff.'
During Elizabethan times (the first Queen Elizabeth) a law was passed to which every person older than 7 years had to wear a hat or cap on Sundays and holy days.
You've got to love those wacky laws, and although we Brits are past masters at passing them, we don't have the monopoly.
There is a law in Wyoming that prohibits wearing of a hat that obstructs a view in a theatre or some other place of amusement.
There is a law in Fargo, North Dakota, that forbids dancing while wearing a hat, under the penalty of jail.
There is still a law in Kentucky that forbids a man to buy a ten gallon hat if his wife is not present to assist in choosing a model.
(I wonder how single guys got on.)
Where does the term 'Mad as a Hatter' originate?
The process of making felt involved the use of mercury, which is toxic, and prolonged exposure use can cause damage in nervous system, tremors and dementia.
Did you know that before it was a popular man's hat, The Fedora was originally designed for the ladies? It was named after the Princess Fedora Romanoff from the play Fédora, by the French author, Victorien Sardou.
And how did the term 'Trilby' come about for describing a narrower brimmed Fedora?
Trilby, is a novel by George du Maurier, published in 1894. The novel tells the story of Trilby O'Ferrall, an artist's model in Paris, who falls under the spell of the compelling Svengali, a musician who trains her voice through hypnosis and turns her into a singing star.
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The Panama hat was never made in Panama. It is made in Equador.
Those who supply men’s hats are called hatters, while those who supply women’s hats are called milliners.
And those of us who are sitting at home,not being able to go out, are becoming as mad as a hatter.
 

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