herringbonekid said:some slightly more sedate 'jazz' era suits, 1919:
H.Johnson said:Yes, and occasionally one sees vintage 'pinks' with the same waist-seam and four panelled back construction. Definitely a riding (and probably a hunting) influence at work, I suspect, but if you look at late 19th C military tunics, they have that construction too. Probably that's where the original influence comes from?
Qirrel said:...I like the coat to the far right, with those interesting on-seam pockets.
Alright, now that suit is quite awesome. Good example of why you need heavy cloths to pull off certain cuts.
Here's a British take on the 'Jazz suit' from the 1940s film 'Brighton Rock'. It's set in the 1930s, so I suppose that British criminals of the period had adopted the look of the 1920s.
It flopped badly. In one sense, it was ahead of its time in trying to latch onto the jazz phenomenon. Heck, jazz was still a newborn baby in 1920.
i see what you mean about the resemblance between the check suit and the 'jazz' suit (the broad padded shoulders and wide trousers being the main difference) although i wonder if they were emulating the 20s in that film or just going for a general 'flashy' 'spiv' look that was the dress code of the underworld criminal of the 30s ?
the styles are similar to the French 30s gangster look with the bold patterns and narrow-brimmed hats:
p.s. i wonder where Pinkie's iconic suit resides now.
I would point to the extreme slant of the pockets and the very close positioning of the three buttons, both of which are hallmarks of the jazz suit and which are not really in keeping with the details of other 'wide boy' clothing of the period.
those details borrowed from the earlier suit would make it a jazz-influenced suit, not an actual jazz suit. the broad padded shoulders and wide legs disqualify it from being an actual jazz suit.
stop me if i'm being too pedantic.
On eBay: Limited pics and poor description, but it sure looks like it could be a Jazz Suit, most likely a modern interpretation of one.