The S?ºdwester- Slouch Hats of the German Colonies-

Discussion in 'Hats' started by BellyTank, Jun 11, 2007.

  1. BellyTank

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    German Colonial troops in the late 19th and early 20th Century wore a kind of Slouch hat in Africa.
    These Hats are beautiful and deserve a mention here-
    I have been given approval by the owner, to use these photos .
    (Bartenders- please feel free to move this thread to a more appropriate area if necessary.)

    I bring you the "Südwester".
    Images: "Copyright Doppler Collection"

    Enjoy!

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    Images:"Copyright Doppler Collection"

    More, detailed information and images can be seen at Chris Dale's excellent web site:

    http://www.germancolonialuniforms.co.uk/




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  2. Cicero

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    Fabulous pictures!
    In fact, the famous General Lettow-Vorbeck did wear this hat alot.

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  3. DOUGLAS

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    WOW! What a great hat. The Germans definitely had style. Thanks for posting those BellyTank.
     
  4. cookie

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    German Slouch Hat

    That General had how many Iron Crosses?

    BT didn't the Cape Dutch volunteers in the Boer War wear a type of Aussie slouch hat?
     
  5. BellyTank

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    Just about all involved in the Boer War wore(!)some kind of Slouch Hat.

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  6. deanglen

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    Those are great hats! Nice style! Thanks for posting them!

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  7. BellyTank

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    Thought you all might appreciate them.

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  8. Duck

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    Great looking hats, BT. They remind me of Grogan's hat with the upturn on the other side.
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  9. Helen Troy

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    If I translate correctly, "Sûdwester" means "south-west." In Norwegian, that is "Sydvest" which also is a name for this very traditional hat.[​IMG]

    (It is made of rubber, to protect against the nasty weather.)

    The name connection, is it there or is it just me being stupid?;)
     
  10. deanglen

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    No, I agree, it's pretty likely.

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  11. Art Fawcett

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    OUTSTANDING!!!

    Thanks BT, this is great!!. I've never studied these nor had the chance to so this is a treat for me! First dumb question...is the pin/rosette a German Army symbol? If so, what does it stand for? Looks to be about a 5" brim width, correct? Crown height? Looks to be a pretty thick felt, any idea of the weight? Are they lined? so many questions..
     
  12. BellyTank

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    Hi Art(High Art)-

    The "rosette" is a cockade/kokarde- Imperial Germany national colours- armed services- yes. Some of the field caps had a German cockade on the front of the crown and a "state/region" cockade on the band- Barvaria, for instance.
    Not sure about brim and crown but wider than a lot of Western hats and maybe a smidge lower in the crown..? Some brims are wider than others, as you can see.

    Unlined I believe and probably a fairly heavy hat but not ultra thick Western.
    Probably Rabbit/Hare, I would guess.

    They are lovely hats, huh?

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  13. BellyTank

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    No connection- not stupid either-


    "S?ºdwester"
    German SouthWest Africa.
    "S?ºdwest Afrika".

    "Sou'Wester", the name of the foul weather hat, refers to foul weather from the South-West. Different definitions.

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  14. BellyTank

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    Here's one of mine-

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  15. I take it, BT, that you haven't had any of these in yer hands? So i can hold all my questions about weight, feel etc of the felt.

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  16. deanglen

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    Granted that there is no connection to Africa, but the designation of southwest, in terms direction, holds, eh?:)

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  17. BellyTank

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    Not really-

    1)A place.
    2)Weather from a direction.

    It IS easy to see that one is South West in English and the other is South West in German but I thought we were talking about an actual connection.
    That would surely be just too obvious to mention...

    :rolleyes:

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  18. BellyTank

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    Correct.
    Hold your water.

    I won't be getting one of these.

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  19. Undertow

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    These are some awesome pics and thanks also for the pic of the General (to put into perspective how one wore the hat)! :eusa_clap
     
  20. deanglen

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    I was thinking of the similarity of the Norwegian to the German, and of course the actual referents are completely different.:)

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