Unusual Harris Tweed Logo?

Discussion in 'General Attire & Accoutrements' started by Retro Spectator, May 12, 2018.

  1. Retro Spectator

    Retro Spectator Practically Family

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    So I picked this jacket up today at a flea market, and I noticed that the Harris Tweed logo inside is not the normal one. The jacket appears to be from either the 1950s or 1960s, but I can't be sure because there is no union label inside, but the details seem to point to that era. Any idea when this logo was used? I searched online but I couldn't find any that were the same as this one. o_O

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  2. Michael A

    Michael A I'll Lock Up

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    My guess is that it would be related to this info from Wikipedia,

    "The Independent Harris Tweed Producers Ltd.
    In 1958, three mainland mills interests formed a group called the ‘Independent Harris Tweed Producers Ltd’, they were: Argyll-shire Weaver’s of Oban, A.&J. McNaughton of Pitlochry’ and Scottish Crofters Weavers of Aberdeen or Leith.

    McNaughton’s of Pitlochry was a traditional supplier of mainland yarn to Lewis small producers. Scottish Crofters Weavers Ltd. was associated with Robert Laidlaw Ltd Wool Mills of Leith who was also a traditional supplier of mainland yarn to Lewis small producers.

    Each of these mills were marketing and selling cloth marked as Harris Tweed but that had not been produced authentically or stamped with the Orb Mark. As such, they found themselves excluded from the lucrative American market, where the Orb Mark had recently been registered.

    Also in 1958 the Independent Harris Tweed Producers Ltd announced a group emblem which was in fact a heraldic shield registered by Argyll-shire Weavers earlier. This shield was used as a trade mark by the Independent Producers.

    By 1958 there were therefore two kinds of Harris Tweed on the market and two associations promoting them: the Orb Harris Tweed promoted by the Harris Tweed Association Ltd. and the Shield Harris Tweed promoted by the Independent Harris Tweed Producers.

    In 1962 court proceedings were initiated by the Harris Tweed Association against the Shield producers, in an English Court while in February 1961 court proceedings were initiated by the Shield group in the High Court of Edinburgh, Scotland.

    The Lord Hunter Harris Tweed case in Edinburgh High Court was between Argyll-shire Weavers and others v A. Macaulay (Tweeds) Ltd. and others.

    It was the longest court case in Scottish legal history[24] and Lord Hunter finally found against the Shield group. Lord Hunter’s opinion was that, a tweed to be legitimately described and marketed as Harris Tweed had at least to conform to the definition approved by the Board of Trade in relation to Certification Trade Mark No 319214 which is the Orb Trade Mark.[25]

    The final decision re-enforced the 1934 definition that tied all production processes only to the Outer Hebrides islands and this finally removed the threat of mainland competition."

    My guess would be that the jacket was produced in the UK and arrived in the US by way of the original owner.

    Michael
     
  3. Retro Spectator

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    Wow! That's a very interesting story! You learn something new everyday. :)
     
  4. Dreamofgilgamesh

    Dreamofgilgamesh A-List Customer

    Hmmm that's a tricky one.I think for it to be official Harris Tweed the logo has to include the orb trademark. Maybe it was made from Harris Tweed fabric but it didn't qualify as a true legal product hence they couldn't use the Orb.
     
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